second verse same as the first

[retro_eidas]

I'm probably slow on the uptake with this, but I noticed that in both last season's time travel ep and this season's, there was Dean/Cas shoulder touch of bromance near the very end of both eps.



In 4.03 it's Cas touching Dean's shoulder. In 5.04 it's Dean touching Cas.

With all this lovely mirroring, does this mean in 5.22 it will be Dean slamming Cas up against a wall with his hand on (or near) his mouth? ;) YES PLS!!

Also in both eps, Surprise Angel in the co-pilot seat with Dean-not-quite-having-a-heart-attack while driving a borrowed car.

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[spacefragments.livejournal.com]

nice catch! also, i can't get enough of cas' little smile in the second gif. :>

now i want a scene where cas shows up in the backseat of the impala, and sam nearly shits himself while dean is all, "oh, hi there cas". cause seriously, he should be used to cas' surprise entrances by now. XD

[eido.livejournal.com]

also, i can't get enough of cas' little smile in the second gif.

Look of love, bb. XD I also don't know if it's a Jensen and Misha thing or directorial, but they assess each other's faces a lot when they're in scenes together. Cas/Misha is doing it there. Not so much where it's obvious, but enough to be noticeable.... or that could simply be my Dean/Cas batshit which it probably is. *facepalm*

now i want a scene where cas shows up in the backseat of the impala, and sam nearly shits himself while dean is all, "oh, hi there cas". cause seriously, he should be used to cas' surprise entrances by now. XD

I want them to take that further and I so very much want those specs about Dean possibly sensing Cas before he's able to see him with his eyes to be canon. Then Sam newly integrated into the team giving bemused head tilts at the angelic weirdness of it, but it's the norm between Dean/Cas now.

[spacefragments.livejournal.com]

mm, either way, it makes me happy. i love it when they're all focused on each other's faces. and cas is totally using that to learn things... like how and when to smile, clearly. :p

I so very much want those specs about Dean possibly sensing Cas before he's able to see him with his eyes to be canon.

you're right! what happened to those? dean's angel-sense (or cas-sense) needs to make a comeback.

omg yes! i'm adding that to my list of things i want to see in the show, right under "sam teasing dean about his angel boyfriend"

[eido.livejournal.com]

like how and when to smile, clearly. :p

Of course, by that assessment, future!Cas must have learned that 1000 watt smile (though totally fake as it was) from Dean too. Or not. Although I'd prefer the notion future!Dean was capable of really smiling at some point while future!Cas knew him.

you're right! what happened to those? dean's angel-sense (or cas-sense) needs to make a comeback.

Dean seemed to be able to do it by the Halloween ep last season, so anytime now that Cas spidey sense should be returning. XD

omg yes! i'm adding that to my list of things i want to see in the show, right under "sam teasing dean about his angel boyfriend"

Or anyone making fun of Dean and his angel boyfriend at anytime ever. Though obvs Sam doing it would be like a dream, once again having me question whether what I'm watching is real or not.

[tehuberfangirl.livejournal.com]

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[eido.livejournal.com]

YESSS! TWO SEASON EVIDENCES OF IT!!! XD

[disprove.livejournal.com]

In 4.16, Anna touches Cas on the arm while in 4.22, Chuck lays a hand on his shoulder. Both times, Cas seems to take issue with being touched. When it's Dean though? Oh he's got no problem there. :D

[eido.livejournal.com]

I thought of that parallel last night actually! LOL And I do hope Dean takes full advantage of Cas' acquiescence. Of course, Dean seems to do just that and I'm not even sure he realizes it. Don't invade my personal space! Now just let me adjust your clothes for you.

I'd like to tie into that one Uriel (join me or die), Anna (falling is so awesome!) and Zach (I'll MAKE you follow me, here's some torture to prove it) all with their separate recruitment attempts at Cas, all angels whom he's known for eons and all failed. When Dean makes his recruitment attempt - and arguably the most dangerous one where Cas would lose the most of his self and up to his very life - Dean is the one who he chooses to follow. And we're not supposed to see this as epic love? <333333

Our icons are depicting parallel scenes too. XD

[godofstrife.livejournal.com]

I think that's just the thing. The other angels, Sam, Bobby want something specific from Castiel, something for themselves. Sam wants Cas to be the image of the sort of angel he always believed in and Bobby wants Cas to fix him. Whenever Dean asks Cas for something it's not for himself but for someone else or the entire planet. On the other none of them, Dean neither, is very quick with reciprocating Cas' loyalty and sacrifices. Still Cas believes in Dean. (Oh God this sort of rambley, it's like 4 am here)
Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that neither Dean nor Castiel need each other but they still seek the other's company. And I'm sure that's something they didn't have before - a friend who wants to be with them just because with no other motives or agendas.

[eido.livejournal.com]

Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that neither Dean nor Castiel need each other but they still seek the other's company.

Well, there is the whole mission to save the world thing, but I get what you're saying. "You have to stop it" and Cas being a primary agent in Dean becoming able in "stop[ping] it" (whatever that means). There is this greater duty they have and partly why their relationship exists at all, but it also goes beyond that. A personal rel'p and closeness there that doesn't have to be there at all, but is. It really, really is.

And I'm sure that's something they didn't have before

Considering how Cas was able to turn his back on his brethren, yes for the greater good, but also centralized so distinctly in Dean again and again? It's almost extraordinary an angel never having this sort of rel'p before despite how long Cas has likely been alive and it being so unique to him, he's willing to sacrifice so much to retain it and fight & die for it.

a friend who wants to be with them just because with no other motives or agendas.

And I think the longer Dean is with Castiel, if he hasn't picked up on that already, he will. Certainly could explain this almost inherent need for closeness, despite his reluctance and some of his protests to the contrary.

[godofstrife.livejournal.com]

Heehe, you put in more elaborate words what I was trying to say. It could be all business 'let's save the world but don't call me to chat just cuz you're as lonely as I am' but it isn't.

Take the whole Raphael mission. Cas said he needed Dean's help because Raphael wouldn't dare harm him. That's true. But Raphael made it clear when he arrived that Cas was only alive due to his unending mercy and that he would take Dean to Michael. There was no practical reason for Dean to be there, it was arguably even more risky this way. But they both kept this pretense up as a means to spend time together and getting the job done.

Certainly could explain this almost inherent need for closeness, despite his reluctance and some of his protests to the contrary.

That is just very a male thing to do. Not every man of course, my boyfriend is all for publicly displaying affection, I'm more in the emotional obtuse category.
Cas doesn't know of these social mores, hence no personal space issues, Dean on the other hand needs a reason to show affection.

[eido.livejournal.com]

Heehe, you put in more elaborate words what I was trying to say. It could be all business 'let's save the world but don't call me to chat just cuz you're as lonely as I am' but it isn't.

Although I am willing to interpret one of the Very Important Lessons that Dean learned in 5.04 as 'Save the world, but don't leave your angel stranded on the roadside. Let him watch you sleep (just like he got his freak on in the bookend ep)!'

Take the whole Raphael mission. Cas said he needed Dean's help because Raphael wouldn't dare harm him. That's true. But Raphael made it clear when he arrived that Cas was only alive due to his unending mercy and that he would take Dean to Michael. There was no practical reason for Dean to be there, it was arguably even more risky this way.

Yeah, you almost wonder if Cas asked Dean to help him either to test his loyalty (or testing Dean in some other way) or because he needed moral support, it's not like Dean would have been able to do a damn thing to Raphael.

Now you've got me thinking about it, but it was also interesting to me how Dean was present to these secret angel methods both to summon an angel to their vessel, but also another means to kill an angel (step through the magic oil flames, the angel dies). We already know that Dean learned the angel-be-gone sigil from Castiel from that glorious line in 5.01. I suspected back in S4 that Cas was eventually going to function as Dean's Obi Wan, but here we are in S5 and I think that's what's happening, but Cas doesn't seem openly acknowledging this role. Like he's keeping the teaching subtle and secret. Wax on, wax off, Dean! Is he afraid if Dean knew what he was doing, he'd reject it? I suppose that's possible considering "everything [Cas] asks, [Dean] does the exact opposite." lol

Or maybe Cas is afraid to scare him? I admit this secret!Obi-Wan Cas stuff is precariously coming off as hints of S3, when Dean was teaching Sam things he needed to know when Dean was dead. Does Cas possibly know his number is up? If he "never changes" (as, like Dean, I don't think anyone wants to see Mrs. Dalloway Future!Cas ever again), the way I see it, he either somehow goes back to becoming an angel or dies the way he is now. Since Cas probably believes he'll never be a proper angel again, so he fully expects to die with honor? Fall on his sword, if it came to that? That would certainly explain Cas' blase attitude about possibly dying in 5.04. Because he knows and we've seen with our own eyes what the alternative (or AN alternative, we don't know how much of that future was real*) might be and it ain't pretty, so he's not about to live to become that. I almost hate how influenced Kripke is by Joseph Campbell, because in the Hero's Journey, the mentor almost always dies. Granted, Cas DID die already and he came back, so maybe he filled his quota (like Gandalf), but since this is SPN and John (Dean's first mentor) has yet to return? I'm pretty certain I'm enough of a fangirl that if Castiel dies dies (permanently separated from Dean forever), I'll probably be sobbing. *sighs*

*I am really expecting Castiel learns that being human isn't the nightmare scenario he and possibly all angels (minus Anna) believe it to be. If 5.04's future was at all fabricated by Zachariah, that could be how angels perceive A) Falling B) What human life would be like if they didn't have Big Brother Heaven watching out for them. This is so ingrained in Castiel's psyche, he can't imagine falling could be remotely good or honorable. Because all he sees "is pain here" and when it isn't that it's nothing but empty vices, drugs and sex mostly. Human life - as angels seem to perceive it - doesn't seem to have any real meaning at all. Which is a perception that seems ready to get destroyed this season, with our favorite angel at the forefront.

Dean on the other hand needs a reason to show affection.

Which is the beauty of it, because show it he does. With how dangerous their lives are, it's all but assured Dean will probably have excuses to show it more.

[paraxdisepink.livejournal.com]

I like how the second touch is slightly more hesitant. It's Dean's restrained desire to do much more tempered by his fear of tainting his pure!Castiel disguised in a "manly" pat. In my head. Which is a place of crazy.

Which is why, in my head, Cas will eventually get frustrated and have to make clear to Dean that he's the one he wants to deflower him. And Dean will epically flail, having seen corrupted!Cas in the "future" and afraid sexytimes might push him further in that direction, and CAs will have to be more insistant and declare his love for Dean, and hawt mansex will ensue.

This is what all that shoulder touching foretells.

[eido.livejournal.com]

It must be in the water, because I've had the same crazy in my head. Dude, if they had some epic, UST-brimming, unrequited love thing going on? Even if it's just friendshippy, Dean all afraid to get Cas too close to his filthy humanness because he doesn't want to turn him into Mrs. Dalloway Cas in Zach's future. Cas wanting him close, but yet also afraid of it at the same time because he still wants to go home and wants to stop feeling for Dean but can't help it, anymore than Dean can stop touching him. Then they just give up and run at each other like Andy and Red at the end of "The Shawshank Redemption" but with (HOT!) boykissing from UST that's been building up forever. This fic needs to be written toute suite.

The love would be the glaring difference between 5.04's wasteland (sex>>>love) and any requited that should happen in the proper timeline (love>>>sex). Again, can be pure agape/platonic too and it would still be amazing. Like transcendental kind of amazing.

I am willing to subscribe to your newsletter, o wise seer. XD

[paraxdisepink.livejournal.com]

Then they just give up and run at each other like Andy and Red at the end of "The Shawshank Redemption" but with (HOT!) boykissing from UST that's been building up forever. This fic needs to be written toute suite.

I am hoping the upcoming eps will provide plenty of fodder for more angst UST, so the moment of truth can be all the more explosive and spectacular heee!

Again, can be pure agape/platonic too and it would still be amazing. Like transcendental kind of amazing.
It could be and it would be, definitely. Unfortunately, were such a scenario to be written by yours truly, my mind can't seem to get out of perve land hee. I blame it on the wall-slamming in 4x22.

[godofstrife.livejournal.com]

Hi, I followed you here. :D

I love how they pull off the narrative symmetry in almost every episode. This the most epic pairing ever.

[eido.livejournal.com]

God yes, I don't think I've ever shipped a pairing as hard as these two. Slash or otherwise. It's all thanks to that epic and the chemistry and the HOTNESS.

[ibroketuesday.livejournal.com]

I certainly hope your prediction is correct!

[eido.livejournal.com]

Hey! I'm willing to take wall-slams as another SPN finale tradition. All the finales ended with someone getting slammed against a wall (well, headstone and tree in AHBL2). Usually one of the leads. It's got to happen in 5.22! XD

[22by7.livejournal.com]

Yeah, thems are awesome parallels. In the episode names, too - "In the beginning" and "The end".

i am the alpha and the omega

[eido.livejournal.com]

Yes! These eps were pretty much bookends to each other. Obvs, also both Dean-centric eps.

Although comparing the ep to ITB, you could almost say 5.04 started off and was largely The Doors, but ended up more like The Beatles. XD Dean/Cas having their moment, then Dean-Sam having theirs. Even if you count 4.04 as the 2nd part of 4.03, both the Dean/Cas and Dean-Sam rel'ps are treading thin ice. Cas was still creepy as hell back then and Sam was beginning the downward spiral / the destruction of the Dean-Sam rel'p. Then comparing it to 5.04, it's Dean depicted as the most charitable by the end (it's Dean who's the lone voice of morality in the future, Dean reaches out to touch Cas and Dean calls Sam).

[madluv4mickbeth.livejournal.com]

cute :)

[eido.livejournal.com]

IKR! They're cuteness HOTNESS personified... that will never go beyond outwardly platonic. *sighs* Oh well, I'll take whatever they'll give me!

[madluv4mickbeth.livejournal.com]

ur enthusiasm is ADORABLE!!! :)

and you know what i'm completely w/ you, I'LL TAKE WHAT I CAN GET *sighs* :)

[elvisglasses5.livejournal.com]

Hopefully we won't have to wait all the way until 5.22 for some wall-slamming action. If you know what I mean, and I think you do.

[eido.livejournal.com]

I do declare, madam, I have no idea of what you're insinuating. *clutches pearls*

;)