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New S4 pics... with Martha bonus! YAYZ!

She's got a ring on her finger which, understandably, folks are wondering if it means she's engaged/married. Possibly. As a woman could only ever get over someone by being suddenly married off. *insert massive eyeroll here*

Although - as my brain is full of crackspec as anyone who reads my Who posts probably knows at this point - I'm wondering if it might be a modified version of this ring....



I'm thinking a Master possession in S4 is all but an inevitability. It's not only an old skool thing he does, but he totally has no body now (as Jedi!Doctor burninated it).

I do have to admit, as long as she doesn't end up Truly Dead by the end of it, I think the idea of Master!Martha is kind of hot. However, that could just be me desirous to see (Not)Martha kick the Doctor's scrawny ass ("Second best", I'll show him "second best"), so I could be a little biased.

Date: 2007-11-04 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elliptic-eye.livejournal.com
IAWTC. Because [livejournal.com profile] bana05 has already covered all my issues with Martha/Milligan more better than I could. RTD would do a much better job of convincing me that he's not pairing her off because clearly she NEEDS to have a man to be fulfilled if he didn't pick one that was consolation prize-flavored. Also because that way he wouldn't shaft the fic I want to write where Martha tumbles way too quicky into a relationship with Milligan because when the TARDIS and all its telepathic safeguards go away her PTSD comes crashing in like whoa and sleeping with the guy she saw killed in front of her freaks her out so she starts telling him about the Year That Wasn't and he thinks she's fucking nuts and packs her off to psychiatric where she discovers that she really wants to slug the Doctor in the jaw and languishes until Lucy!Master shows up to claim her and remind her of the first time they actually met, and—

Date: 2007-11-04 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eido.livejournal.com
Also because that way he wouldn't shaft the fic I want to write where Martha tumbles way too quicky into a relationship with Milligan because when the TARDIS and all its telepathic safeguards go away her PTSD comes crashing in like whoa

That is an interesting idea, I just spec'd on someone else's journal wondering if this might be her attempt to grasp at normalcy or the mundane (not unlike the Doctor's nostalgia about "2am, getting a taxi home", like he's at once compelled and repelled by the domestic). An attempt to wind down from the insanity of her life previous, but at the same time, unable to let it go completely (her working for Torchwood? Meeting the Doctor again and likely getting involved in some adventure instead of just staying home with bf/fiance/hubby?).

There really is just... no way at all I'm seeing how, whoever this is, (unless they're TW/UNIT or an ex-companion) understanding or even knowing about her other life. Milligan couldn't/wouldn't know. Briefly, I thought it might be that Morgenstern (http://doctorwho.time-and-space.co.uk/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=89&pos=530) (the brown-nosy med student in S&J who was trying to make nice with the Judoon with less than stellar results), he at least seemed inclined to believe the alien invasions were real. They could have gotten to know each other again during the renewed training / exams. But yeah, if she's starving for the mundane, then by the looks she'd have hit the jackpot with that dry Morgenstern guy if he's the one. Ugh.

Date: 2007-11-04 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elliptic-eye.livejournal.com
Ooooh, I like this idea. Well, not the idea of Martha pairing off with Morgenstern, obviously, but I would read a fic that developed him and partnered them to solve some alien-zalien/timey-wimey mystery and learn to stand each other whilst punching all of each other's buttons in a heartbeat.

Date: 2007-11-05 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eido.livejournal.com
I have to admit that rather appeals to me since it's essentially writing Martha as the Doctor and Morgenstern as her plucky sidekick/companion-nee-love interest. Suddenly "Kim Possible" flashed through my mind. Heh. Although funny how, canon-wise, that's about never going to happen since you can't have yet another person (and another female to boot) being a better Doctor than the actual Doctor (Sarah Jane>>>Ten. Martha Jones>>>Ten).

Date: 2007-11-04 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
People are coming up with all kinds of cool theories about all this, but sadly I think that as usual, it's much more Occam's Razor--Rusty needs her romantically neutralized, so he'll pair her off with Milligan, end of story. (But come on, write that fic--if he can fuck with canon to suit his own ends, so can the rest of us!)

Date: 2007-11-04 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eido.livejournal.com
Rusty needs her romantically neutralized

Then here comes "unromantic" Donna and then the return of Rose and there goes Nu Who, flushed down the void toilet and enter my denials of ever having watched it.

Date: 2007-11-04 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
Same here, same here. My Ten/Martha stories are shaping up as my Viking funeral for Nu Who, after which I bugger off forever to the old stuff.

Date: 2007-11-04 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eido.livejournal.com
I'm just hoping this isn't the last of Freema or she's cursed to forever be some earthbody for the Doctor / never gets away from Nu Whoniverse. America tends to steal away all/most of the British black talent in any case, but I shamelessly admit I'd love to see her in something regular here (as long as it's tolerable) or maybe some movies.

Date: 2007-11-04 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
Oh, I'd be incredibly happy for her if she got something like Sophia Myles got (er, better-written, I'd hope)--time will tell.

Date: 2007-11-04 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elliptic-eye.livejournal.com
(But come on, write that fic--if he can fuck with canon to suit his own ends, so can the rest of us!)

Don't worry, I'm on it, and without the slightest compunction. I really don't see Nu Who as more canonical than, say, the books—and my standards may be somewhat arbitrary, but fuck it. It's not like we're deciding what to put in the Bible/Torah/Quran/Tripitaka, here.

Date: 2007-11-05 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
"I really don't see Nu Who as more canonical than, say, the books."

Same here. It's the equivalent of canon dumpster-diving for me--mostly rotten food and maggots, but every now and then there's a chair that just needs a repaired leg and a little new upholstery.

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