doctor who - 503 - victory of the daleks

[retro_eidas]

• I liked the ep, but *sighs* I'm still looking mostly to Classic for my Dalek fix. It did feel like a 40s radio serial, which I liked. I kept waiting for the Phantom to run in.
  
  
• The beginning felt rushed and I didn't really feel for any of the guests, not even for Ms. Brokenhearts who lost her pilot boyfriend and I think I was supposed to feel for her. Oh well.
  
  
• Too bad we couldn't get a Nancy cameo. She was one of my favorites from S1.
  
  
• Unfortunately, if I didn't know anything about Winston Churchill beforehand, I'd think he didn't do much in WW2 besides smoke cigars and sign things? Also steal TARDIS keys. Tricksy prime minister! Though that is a bit scary since Churchill had a scientist that might have actually understood the inner workings of the TARDIS had Amy not caught his tricksiness.
  
  
• I did like Dr. Bracewell (heh, nice names, Moff), though disarming a bomb by reaching out to it's humanity? Eh. A bit too much like Cylons only successfully crossbreeding when they're in love. Robotics foiled by the power of love again (and why was there even a first time? *sighs*).
  
  
• That is the biggest wrench I've ever seen. And Eleven is unleashing his own Dalek-breakdown with it (but big wrench is BIG).
  
  
• BIG GIRL CLOTHES ON AMY! AND I LOVE HER STYLE OMG!! *girlcrushing*
  
  
• Fetching all that tea and the Daleks had never seen a cookie before? I guess I've got to blame it on war rationing?
  
  
• Oh! Pretty colors! And I shall dub them the Dell Inspiron Daleks. Daleks Inspiron?
  
  
• Spitfires. in. SPACE. Though my brainmeat was ruining it for me and all I could think was "Independence Day".
  
  
• "You ever fancy someone you know you shouldn't?" Oh no. Well, at least she seems to have a sense he's unattainable, which is more than Rose or Martha got? Rose was pleasant to Reinette, vice versa. I'm going to hope the same can be said for meetings/interactions in the upcoming ep.

Next week: O HAI RIVER! And Weeping Angels. Looks like I'll be vacuuming behind the sofa before the next ep. Also meandering around in a cave? Amy needs to watch out for Cybermen. Also possibly giant clams.

Comments

[eido.livejournal.com]

I can see how that might be frustrating. Though I admit, I am in the camp that can see Doctor/River a bit easier than Doctor/Rose, but then I was never really on the Doctor/Rose train. Heh. ;)

GAH! I think I've got an Amy girlcrush, for srs. She's gorg and clever and I'm adoring her dynamic with Eleven.

[missjigsaw23.livejournal.com]

I was on the Doc/Rose train from the moment 9 grabbed her hand and said "Run", been on it ever since, and am glad that, in a way, they got to be together.

And I'm a 'shipper at heart, so I pretty much always find a pairing...

...kind of like 11/Amy. Yeah. I'm shipping it, already.

As for Amy: that she is, that she is.

I have serious hair envy going on with her though XD

[eido.livejournal.com]

Hey, you never know, you might get on the Doctor/River train if you gave it a chance. ;) Some folks have been speculating she might be Romana regenerated but is keeping her identity secret for some reason or another and I'm telling you, if that were true... srsly, I can't even. "City of Death" is like the third Who story I ever saw and the shippy in that, even back in old skool, was crazy. lol

Is it weird I find myself more attracted to Eleven than Ten?

[missjigsaw23.livejournal.com]

Haha, maybe if I wasn't already on the 11/Amy train =P

We'll see how next saturday goes.

No more weird than me finding myself more attracted to 9 than 10.

[eido.livejournal.com]

Maybe Amy = River? ;) If she were suprsekrit Time Lady (who the Doctor can't detect for some reason), that would totally be possible. [/crackspec]

I can't believe I only just noticed too, but Moff does seem to have a fondness for bodies of water. Pond, River? What's up with that? lol

ETA. I'm actually with you re: Nine and Ten. I thought David Tennant was more conventionally attractive, but I didn't care for Ten.

[missjigsaw23.livejournal.com]

Hahahaha! Yeah, you're right. Totally plausible. Someone should get on to the detailed analysis of the characters, and write a meta explaining why they're the same =P (actually, considering some of the cracked things I've read metas about: there's probably already one out there... and it's completely serious)

... I never noticed the water thing before XD

I loved Ten, but I loved Nine more. I would have been just as happy if they had gone with 4 seasons of Nine, instead of 1... Wonder how different it would have been... I wonder if Martha would have gotten along with Nine (or started that unbearably annoying "oh woe! the Doctor doesn't love me, and I'm going to be snitty because he happens to still be grieving over the loss of someone important to him"...) or if Donna would have...

...Actually, Nine/Donna interaction might have been interesting XD

[eido.livejournal.com]

Oh, they'd definitely not be the same if she were a Time Lord and regenerated. The Doctors themselves are all different, it's the same with most other Time Lords in their various regenerations. If Amy were a suprsekrit Time Lord, she'd be acting one way in one regeneration but another in a different one.... and I can't even believe my mind ran off with this. *facepalm*

I disliked Ten in part for how he treated Martha actually and I do blame him more for the unpleasantness of the relationship than her. I didn't really care for Rusty writing Martha as unrequited in love with him (I didn't like Rose mooning after him either, to be fair). Both Rose and Martha were too defined by whether the Doctor loved them or not. However, I felt that Ten was barely pleasant to Martha at times, barely even treating her like a friend. Something I think he did feel bad for when all was said and done, you can see it on his face when Martha left. Ditto the "I ruined her life" to Donna in that first S4, he knows he didn't do right by her and he would be right. Though the line is a touch melodramatic, but that goes back to the Doctor's ego. He didn't love Martha the way she wanted, so of course it must have ruined her whole life. Please, Ten. The Doctor always had an ego, Six was particularly bad about it, but Ten's just grated on me. Mostly due to the whole "lonely god" thing. Martha had a life and promising career before the Doctor showed up and she went right back into it, even joined up with UNIT.

Rose, the way she was written, is the one I actually felt sorry for (for what I could feel for how Davies just kept having her come back again and again and again, there goes any dramatic poignancy Rose's departure in "Doomsday" had!). Davies never did let her move on. Then her arc ended with a Doctor-copy and then Davies had her chasing after the disappearing TARDIS anyway (IIRC, Davies actually implied or said in the Confidential for that ep that Rose realized too late she'd made the wrong choice with "the Doctor" she basically settled with). The way he wrote Rose and finally ended her arc, it just ended up all depressing and pathetic to me. Sometimes I wonder what season 2 would have been like if Reinette got to live and travel in the TARDIS. Or maybe if Mickey stayed on. Maybe Rose might have realized he couldn't ever be completely hers, despite the impression he'd give sometimes around her. Like this fan art (http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/Doctor-s-Girls-46247500) put in praxis (but maybe with less histrionics, LOL). It isn't something I felt she truly understood, not really. Davies wouldn't let her have that realization.

[missjigsaw23.livejournal.com]

rofl, well, sometimes brains just grab things an run with them, and you don't really know why... Kinda of like a puppy.

I suppose my dislike of Martha was tainted by my own dislike of the fact that Rose was gone... Whatever her flaws, she's still my favorite companion (though Donna and so far, Amy, are close behind). I can admit that. But you're right, Ten never did treat her right. And yeah, the Doctor's got an ego.

...He said that? *stuffs fingers in ears and hums loudly* Author intent is not canon, author intent is not canon... Dammit, I am NOT having one of my few ships that became canon get taken from me because Davies can't leave things to interpretation... (I always interpreted running after the TARDIS as yeah, she's made her choice, but that doesn't erase everything she felt for the original Doctor, and she was still sad to see him go (...and possibly a little bitter about being left behind without being asked if it was what she wanted... I would be))

Hahaha, I've seen that fanart before. It was funny then, still funny now. I admit, the "thought I was special" thing was annoying... But at least she and Sarah Jane became friends. I'd like to think that she and Martha, and Donna would have as well, if given the chance...

[eido.livejournal.com]

I'll just say there was a time I thought Davies was a decent writer. I enjoyed "Second Coming" with Chris Eccleston. I enjoyed S1. Then S2 happened. Then Martha's arc, a companion who would have rocked (and I feel did rock, despite some crap she was saddled with) had she not had that damn unrequited love arc thrust on her, happened. Donna salvaged things somewhat, but her ending was... disturbing to say the least. Basically, I'd sort of rather pretend large swaths of Ten's tenure didn't happen at all and was very relieved when Davies left. Very. I'm just sad we couldn't have seen a bit of Ten under the control of someone else for awhile, wonder if my opinion on him might have changed. Oh well, such is the ever-changing nature of Who.

Also, don't ever read RTD's autobiography. Seriously. Just don't do it. Cuz if you think you're stuffing your fingers in your ears now...? Read that and you'll be diving for the Kaopectate. Possibly kicking things too. Hard.

[missjigsaw23.livejournal.com]

... I have a problem with morbid curiosity, but... What sort of things did he say in that? I've heard that many people hat the kicking things reaction, but no one's really said why...