re: vague ausiello spoiler

[retro_eidas]

That SPN is poor and they're not just going to kill off an actor's character when they still have to pay the actor for a whole 17 eps? Since I doubt Jimmy will come back and be Dean-Sam's magic helper (or Gabriel will suddenly pop up and replace Cas), Cas isn't going anywhere.

I suppose I should include the spoiler...

Question: Supernatural? Anything? —Christopher
Ausiello: A somewhat pivotal character will die soon. Guesses? Head to the comments.

I'm thinking it is going to be Bobby (NOOOOOOOOOOO!!) because Kripke is a HUGE Joseph Campbell fanboy and Bobby is the mentor. The mentor almost always dies in Campbell stories. His mental state is also shaky since "The Curious Case.." and that depressed/sad look he gave at the end, behind Dean's back, said to me he wasn't really over it. He's also probably got to kill his (zombie)wife in 5x15. I wouldn't be shocked he goes out with her, Ellen-Jo style.

It could be Anna (meh). Though she's hardly "pivotal", even if "Heaven & Hell" was all about her. However, for upcoming shenanigans, I could believe Michael or Lucifer explode her like a water balloon of Chunky soup. However, since JM thinks it's possible she'll be sticking around, I still think she'll live and maybe go darkside? IDKY I think this. Apart from women in SPN often either being 1) Quickly disappeared to likely never be seen from again 2) Dead or 3) Evil. Anna's made a few appearances, so nix on the first option, JM thinks she'll be back, so that leaves the third.

Maybe it's God? XD Which would mean Kripke is pilfering ideas from Philip Pullman. Or possibly The Authority. Or any other story God has died (and probably deserved it). Whether God is the "soon" death or not, I could still believe God may be dead or die (this season) eventually. Possibly like Bobby (and John and Mary, etc etc), that would really drive home, not just with Dean-Sam, but the entirety of the Host (the ones not insane anyway.... which pretty much is Cas) that All We Have Is Each Other So We Gots To Stick Together band o' brothers theme that Kripke loves. The "brothers" being angels and humans, both children of God. The Host can either sink (which seems to be most of them? Most likely not wanting to believe they're helpless on the same sinking boat the monkeys are) or persevere/have a major existential evolution for the sake of survival (Cas?). Then the rest/majority of the Host either continue on the crazy train and/or battle for superiority up in Heaven. O hai possible conflict for season 6 if it happens.

Comments

[sailorhathor.livejournal.com]

This show needs to find something else to do to create conflict besides killing people. It's gotten boring. It's like "24" - I stopped watching it because they killed off characters left and right, whether you even had a chance to learn their name or not. There are so many other things they could do, they don't need rampant character killings to keep us watching.

I've never been real into the Bobby character. If he dies, meh. I'd rather see him fight his way back, learn to walk again, than see him die in a hole of self-despair. But if they're not going to develop him any further, then sure, let's see him die. *shrug*

[eido.livejournal.com]

On one side, I do sympathize with the sometimes tedium of the killings, especially shock kills for the sake of conflict or suspense. On the other, it's supposed to be Armageddon, so one might almost wonder where are all the corpses. Now that Death has risen, I'm guessing the body count is going to be higher.

This might sound sort of callous, but just being honest here, Castiel does have the much larger fanbase and he could probably do a lot of the jobs Bobby does. With the exception of being a surrogate daddy to Dean and Sam, Cas probably knows more about the supernatural without having to reference books and, not even considering Bobby's paralysis, Cas is still powerful, so he's a more effective back-up, especially with what they're all facing down. There's also a much larger dramatic playground to mess around in with Castiel than there is with Bobby at this point. There are so many directions they could go with Cas yet, Bobby's character doesn't really have that benefit.

[sailorhathor.livejournal.com]

Well, yeah, I get that it's the Apocalypse and there will be death, but the fact that some of these deaths have been characters with a lot more potential, I think, is a shame. If they'd fully developed Jo before they killed her off, I'd actually be more for it, which I know sounds odd. I just hate it when TV shows barely develop a character and then kill them for shock value, and we're left wondering how much cooler they could have been.

The writers haven't done much to endear Bobby to me, TBH. He's just kind of there. And some of the details they have provided make me wonder about his motivations. I mean, seriously, who stabs someone to death because they're possessed? Did he even try to call in the exorcists? I don't care if he was "inexperienced" with the supernatural - he's never seen a movie? There was nothing that could have clued him in to the fact that maybe murdering his wife wasn't the only course of action? It's uneven writing like that that makes me care less about the character.

I agree with you on Castiel. His background makes him a more valuable character to keep around. And, he's been far more interesting.