SPN thoughts

[retro_eidas]

• Wow. That was quite bloody.
  
  
• Although, Dean honey, even the Ghost Hunters are wise enough to NOT go traipsing around scary places alone or at least tell someone where they're going. Ah yes, let's go exploring the subterranean dirt hole with no back-up.
  
  
• However, I did love the angel window as his salvation. Cas saving him even if it's only symbolically!
  
  
• Amazing! John Winchester has been dead for two seasons and he still manages to prove what a rat bastard of a father he was. He can take that kid to a baseball game but can't even call Dean back in "Home" or when Dean was dying in "Faith"? Right. I have to wonder if that kid might have actually lived too had John simply stayed away from him instead of storming into town playing loving daddy and while there started killing, thus pissing off, the local supernatural nasties. Making Adam and his mother instant targets and only with John's part-time protection. Well done dbag, well done. Oh, btw...
  
  
• No Sammy, I do not think Dean comparing you to John was a compliment. At all. And holy Jesus, Dean is right with that comparison too. Sam has always been very much like John (Dean also said as much in "Devil's Trap", but "Mystery Spot" proved it as well). Sammy was flipping scary tonight.
  
  
• Also glad to see all that Ruby-vampiring to make Sam SuperSammy is really coming into use with more than just demons.... oh wait. The writers were even rubbing it in our faces, with the ghouls mentioning Sam's blood "tastes different". Yes, that would be the juiced-up demon blood that's apparently NO USE AT ALL in a situation not involving demons. Y'all realize Lilith hired herself up some ghouls (or shapeshifters or vampires or whatever supernatural nasties hiring... or hell, some greedy, ne'er-do-well humans) and got the jump on Sam, he'd apparently be little use to stop them.
  
  
• "[Adam's] in a better place" He forgot that conversation with Tessa already, did he? It wasn't *that* many eps ago, Dean. Is that indicative of Dean still lying to himself or realizes it's a lie but would rather cling to the pretty words than even think of going down that Deal For Your Soul To Save A Brother road again (for one brief second there I thought that was what Sam was about to suggest and was ready for a rant until he mentioned Cas).

ETA. I'm also left baffled why we needed an ep that essentially boiled down to whatever remained of Dean's John Hero Worship about totally smashed to pieces and Sammy being a lot like John (which we already knew, but Sam seems to have embraced with an all new fervor). What relevance could this have so near the end of the season, to the finale?

Comments

[eido.livejournal.com]

I just had a thought: maybe even the angels that aren't all for Lucifer know they can't stop it... And if there is a bit of an Apocalypse - eh, those little mud-monkeys are adaptable, they'll survive.

Thus why the angels are such scary dicks, but then some of them were always capable of killing all first-born children in Egypt and killing a third of the fish in the sea. How they can handwave the devastation of an Apocalpyse either just because or it's necessary... that's incomprehensibly terrifying.

There's a reason why Tyler ends up dead at the end of "Fight Club". He's an out-of-control sociopathic, chaotic manifestation of the Narrator's mental illness. It's crazy on top of crazy. Yet at the same time, Tyler's "mayhem", although was necessary to break the Narrator's life out of the conformist, depressing rut it had been in, was ultimately just another form of conformity. Essentially becomes all too similar to what it was rebelling against even if by way of vigilantism.

You get the impression from Anna that angel society (almost like the FC Narrator's life) is almost Orwellian in it's rigidity. Anna - possibly like Lucifer - could be another Tyler and although chaos might initially be deserved for an "Ikea-obsessed", Orwellian angel society, it can all too easily turn into something nothing short of apocalyptic. That could be why Anna has a death sentence over her head. The angels that like how the society is now, of course they'd want her stopped. However, other angels may realize if angel society collapses, humanity could become extremely vulnerable. However, why is she still alive if these differing groups of angels are against her? Possibly because other angels think, like you say, "if there is a bit of an Apocalypse - eh, those little mud-monkeys are adaptable, they'll survive." For the same reason they might have left Ruby alive. Maybe humanity - and possibly the angels themselves - are in for one big brutal cleansing by way of an Apocalypse and Anna is (possibly knowingly and for dangerously self-absorbed reasons. Maybe getting back at them or "changing" how angels are) one of the harbingers of it?

The angels might be dicks, but they're also all humanity really has right now fighting in their corner. It's possible some demons could join up on the Dean & Sam human side, probably out of self-preservation, but I also don't see them having anything good planned for humanity either.

[julorean.livejournal.com]

Yep. Terrifying and completely plausible. Oh, Cas certainly wouldn't like it, but the higher-ups? Certainly wouldn't care so much.

Heh. Neither side is all that good. I'd join the third side: the Winchesters. They'd say a big fuck-you to both angels and demons and save the world anyway.