spn - 5.14 - my bloody valentine
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retro_eidasSince they didn't use any songs in this ep thus no lyrics for me to quote in the cut and I'm not going to quote from Jensen's shitty movie, I'll quote Dante at random!
- My bloody valentine? Try whole bloody season. Lovers literally devouring each other ...in the kitchen against a fridge, no less. Ha ha. Averting my eyes now, Mr. Edlund!! *cringes* This probably wasn't on purpose, but that reminded me a hell of a lot of the last scene you see Clarice and Hannibal Lecter together at the end of the "Hannibal" movie. Him looking like he's about to bite her face off with her trapped against a fridge (for squick, they actually ended up together in the book).
- Famine reminded me of creeptastic Reverend Kane from the "Poltergeist" sequels. Those sequels were pretty crap, but that old dude was stuff of nightmares.
- When's Dean going to learn to stop punching angels? But wow, Sammy doesn't look like the only one with anger issues. Sammy's more the overt raging at anything and everything but Mr. Push-It-All-Down-And-Move-On Dean seems more like a powder keg waiting to blow. Push him hard enough, he will try to lay you out, even if it may break his hand and he knows it.
- Cas really does like materializing this || close to Dean, doesn't he?
- Apparently it's business as usual for third class cherubs. "Cupid" seemed utterly undeterred about the whole Apocalypse business his (higher ranked?) emo brothers have all been going nutso over. I take it a low-ranked angel like him either doesn't care or somehow doesn't know what his brothers are doing to Earth? He didn't seem without compassion, he started sobbing when he thought he was responsible for the deaths of two of his marks. Which makes me lean towards him - and his fellow heavenly peons - just not knowing. Zachariah bragged they'd been keeping the ground troops ignorant of their greater plan. I'd take it that's true for all the lower ranked angels as well (though how could they not know what's going on?) I'd wonder what these lower ranked angels would think if they learned the extent of their brothers' shenanigans? I can't imagine they'd be too happy about it.
- Not that it's particularly surprising from all the determinism Michael was jawing about last week, but Heaven played matchmaker for John/Mary? They'd have not gotten together if not for, literal, divine intervention? All apparently to cook up some vessels? That's disturbing. I've still got this fear Heaven compelled Dean and Sam to knock up some chicks as back-up or they might. They just keep going on and on about bloodlines and family this season.
- Jimmy is still in there then? Though after Cas leaves him, too bad he'll be dead from high cholesterol in 10 years. Dude, Jimmy, salads can be awesome too. I feel sorry for Misha having to stuff his face for so many takes, I'm sure Jensen could sympathize (or it was his idea).
- Interesting (or unnerving) Jimmy's being affected by Famine - that human susceptibility to hunger - was more powerful than Castiel could fight.
- But WTF writers? Jimmy is still alive in there, so wtf was up with letting Cas nearly bang a hooker? And after all the pains they took to make sure GC!Ruby's vessel was vacated / prevent Sam from raping some possessed chick. I doubt straight arrow, family man Jimmy was up to having an affair
unless it's God/angels calling - Dean's so broken he doesn't "hunger" for anything? Though that whole "hole inside of [Dean]" line - apart from the mantears at the end of H&H - reminds me of what Dean said to Tessa the Reaper back in DTAH. Dean going to wax poetic at Death (again)?
- I'd speculate if Dean's being unaffected by Famine c/o 40 years of Hell a possible reason why the "righteous man" was allowed to stew down there so long. A failsafe so the Horsemen wouldn't affect him? However, wasn't he affected by War? IIRC, he was seeing the demon eyes just like the rest of them in 5.02. Then again, I suppose not being affected by Famine doesn't necessarily translate to the rest of the Horsemen, though that would be an interesting (and depressing) trait of Dean's. His time in Hell was to break him, but so he could be immune to Horsemen?
- How long did Dean wait before he stormed into the diner (possibly infested with demons and a Horseman of the Apocalypse) to save Cas? Less than a minute? Heh.
- Too bad all the eps couldn't have been as easily dispersed amongst Team Free Will as this one was. This is probably one of the few eps this season Show has really utilized the fact it has *three* leads, all of whom have chemistry with each other.
- It looks as though they might be trying to salvage Sam's powers off the evil heap. Though he's still got to drain the possessed. It's probably an understandable fear, but is Lucifer going to be dangling vials of his/Nick's blood in front of Sam to tempt him?
- Dean still needs a hug (though preferably not from naked fat angels, they just creep him out). Cas looked like he was ready to follow Dean out and I really wish he did. He was looking concerned and looking right at Dean chugging on that booze, you could also tell he was trying to make the effort to comfort Dean about Sam's condition. It's a shame he didn't/couldn't answer Dean's prayer this time too like he'd done in MATEOTB.
- My guess is Dean's going to have to choose to live or something, but possibly also be given a very real motivation and probably (or it may have to be) something outside of Sam.
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Date: 2010-02-12 05:03 am (UTC)Honestly Dean's PTSD and Depression can blamed for his 'non-desire' I don't think he's broken completely. I really really hope not.
Impatient Dean running in after Cas was sweet but finding him on the floor eating raw meat and yet another Cas like a dog reference, it makes me >:[
The Jimmy thing really displeased me. ON the one hand Jimmy being alive is good because he didn't deserve to die on the other wtf!? Look at all the crap Castiel is dragging him through! DNW.
Oh Sam. He just needs a hug sfm! I hate that they did that to him, he didn't want it. I'm so proud of him refusing his demon buffet! :hug for Sam:
Dean still needs a hug (though preferably not from naked fat angels, they just creep him out). Cas looked like he was ready to follow Dean out and I really wish he did. He was looking concerned and looking right at Dean chugging on that booze, you could also tell he was trying to make the effort to comfort Dean about Sam's condition. It's a shame he didn't/couldn't answer Dean's prayer this time too like he'd done in MATEOTB.
THIS SFM! Oh Cas <\3
Dean's always had such a messed up life and they kept at it until no normal person could actually handle that crap. Its like the only way he'll be ok is if he's dead but as we've seen he can't even rest them. He's just so tired and always having to just 'deal', always having to deal :\
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Date: 2010-02-12 02:04 pm (UTC)I saw it as manipulation. However, part of me is struggling wondering if it matters how they got together, at least they got together. Another part is all too disturbed how much Heaven has nosed in in so many aspects of their lives.
ETA. But I also hated the whole Cupid matchmaker because it makes John/Mary seem very impersonal. Like some cattle paired up to make some choice prime rib (called Dean & Sam). This reminds me of, for example, the Middle Ages and arranged marriage. How marriage wasn't about love, but what the Church (literal Heaven, in this case) mandated. Real romantic love, or Amor, the personal connection not dictated by the Church or families, was seen as a sin. Joseph Campbell says a thing or two about the difference between Eros (o hai Cupid) vs. Amor and falls strongly on the side of Amor. Amor was romantic love that transcends the physical and can be spiritual/religious, but doesn't exclude the physical by default either (as Church credo dictates). Eros, on the other hand, was more about lust, the biological urge (which could be seen in that gorey love scene at the beginning of this ep. Lust disturbingly conflated with hunger/feeding). Biological urge that apparently existed between John/Mary as the reason for their "love" was to continue this super-special bloodline. WTF Heaven? Where is the Amor?
Also just a guess, but I wouldn't be shocked Kripke uses Amor specifically in the process of healing Dean. Something he currently doesn't have.
Honestly Dean's PTSD and Depression can blamed for his 'non-desire' I don't think he's broken completely. I really really hope not....
Its like the only way he'll be ok is if he's dead but as we've seen he can't even rest them. He's just so tired and always having to just 'deal', always having to deal :\
I want to keep some hope alive that the emptiness inside of Dean is just waiting to be filled by the right thing. Which just wasn't accessible in this ep. I don't know if they'll go all evangelical on us and say it's (love of/belief in) God that Dean's missing. He was praying at the end there and presumably to God (though like other folks, it also seemed dangerously like he was about to say yes to Michael). IDK IDK Like you, I get the impression they're suggesting death is Dean's only release, except I really wouldn't want Dean to die unless he can be promised some sort of peace - or at least something not completely miserable - in the afterlife. Cuz Heaven as it currently is doesn't seem all that great.
Impatient Dean running in after Cas was sweet but finding him on the floor eating raw meat and yet another Cas like a dog reference, it makes me >:[
I get some comfort reading Lorca (http://www.boppin.com/lorca/sonnet.html). Otherwise, I got the pet/dog motife too. o.O Slightly twisted, but considering Cas spent most of his existence being the Good Little Soldier, you might wonder if Cas wasn't as unaffected by Famine as he seemed to claim. Except he's gone from being on his knees to Heaven, to being on his knees for humans (specifically, Dean) and he wants to be there. Wants Dean to lead him, except Dean can sometimes be debilitated by being "broken" and doesn't always come off a proper leader. There are moments though we can see it coming through (5.02, for example).
Look at all the crap Castiel is dragging him through! DNW.
I suppose it's either this or being pro-Armageddon. Castiel (and thus Jimmy) know too much to try to wallow in blissful ignorance. Despite the suffering, I imagine Jimmy would be on the side that might spare his family as he, though a little too late, did ultimately put them first. However, I posted to
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Date: 2010-02-13 02:07 am (UTC)It bothers me that for all the planning and supposed eventuality of Dean and Sam as Michael and Lucifer Castiel doesn't seem to be accounted for and then I wonder what the implications of this time frame are, exactly how long has God been MIA?
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Date: 2010-02-13 11:53 pm (UTC)Cupid didn't seem like a bad guy either, which is the scary part. Even the not-so-bad ones are messed up and don't get how messed up they are, because their society, thus the orders, are messed up. Most of the peons, like presumably "cherub, third class", just don't see it.
Angels and their whole world just seem so damn dystopic. Seriously, selective breeding? Topped off with Michael's determinism BS, Anna's describing most angels as emotionless marble statues who can't choose for themselves and the general detesting of (and domineering over) lower lifeforms? It's all creepily Orwellian. Castiel is pretty much like the Guy Montag or Rick Deckard. The lone rebel within the system that can see it's corruptness when the rest of his brethren can't or don't care, then taking on the seemingly impossible task of trying to fight the monolithic system/Big Brother.
What bothers me is in just about every dystopia story? The Father Figure is either utterly ineffective/powerless or he's the very source of the wrongness of the society. Hence why I've been really apprehensive about Castiel putting all his faith and hope in the God plan... and then God turns out to be some Mustapha Monde type or like God in His Dark Materials.
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Date: 2010-02-14 12:34 am (UTC)And I really love your icon~
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Date: 2010-02-14 02:13 am (UTC)And thus probably why God will turn out to be an asshole or ineffectual. It's all gotta come down to the guys by each others' sides in the trenches, not Daddy or anyone else. Like in a lot of coming-of-age stories (which in many ways, SPN still is, despite most of the protags being adults), they shouldn't - or can't - be depending on Dad to fix their problems. IIRC, John - despite the whole of S1 being about the search for him - really didn't do much when he finally showed up. The finale he got captured and then turned out to be possessed (of which pitted Dean vs. John and Sam had to choose between them, he chose his bro. The guy who'd been with him in the trenches his whole life).
Also problematic is if God is an asshole or ineffectual, will Castiel side with him anyway, simply because he's Daddy? Cas had a lapse in judgment towards the end of last season too. I'd really, really hope Cas keeps choosing his (surrogate)bros in the trenches over anyone and everything, but Cas could still be a wild card with this.
ETA. Michael is creepily Mustapha Monde-like, but damn is MattCohen!Mike pretty. I might just consider soma holiday Paradise if he was offering.
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Date: 2010-02-14 03:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-14 02:41 pm (UTC)But GAH!!! CAS CAN'T DIE!!! [/WAILS] I'm keeping a tiny hope alive they'll still be sitting on the identity of Cas' resurrector (and whoever saved Dean & Sam from Lucifer in 5x01) if Cas becomes a martyr. That's when mysterious resurrector reveals him/herself, by saving Cas again.