Dean the Weapon
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retro_eidasI had this really disturbing dream last night of Dean, raised as an orphan and tossed through the foster system most of his life, who'd become this sociopathic special forces soldier that's had a thousands of "enemy kills" and .... basically a monster, but an acceptable one since it's the "enemy" he's killing. That's what I get I suppose from watching "Skin" while only half-conscious. *cringes*
I keep wondering about the notion of Dean being a "weapon" (which was hinted by way of Anna, even back in OTHOAP). Zachariah claims Dean is "Michael's sword", but also claims it's because Dean is Michael's vessel. I have wondered if Zachariah - as angels are not perfect, they are prone to error - has gotten the "weapon" and "Michael's sword" part mistaken? Dean is not a vessel, but literally a weapon, designed specifically by Michael to save the world/his family and fulfill his duty to his Father's creations? Dean is something all new (or perhaps not unlike Jesse - or the antithesis of Jesse - being Lucifer's most valuable weapon)? Now this could easily just be me and having seen the movie "9") one too many times. However, that whole movie was about these creatures (homunculi) created (by way of Alchemy) as a means to counterbalance the end of civilization/humanity. A last ditch means to preserve life, in whatever form, and destroy the machine - created by humans, of course - that which ended (the human) civilization in the first place. However, you get a similar story in "Terminator 2" or any other story that's involved created and/or artificial life or A.I. (though also often times the source of destruction) as the source of humanity's or life's salvation or preservation. In the case of "Supernatural", it is the human world (family) that needs saving, but also based on every emo angel's sob story we've heard, the Heavenly family is in dire need of salvation too and apparently has been so for some time. Since before Creation.
Might Michael have been like the alchemist in "9"? Realizing that his angelic family was doomed, so created a countermeasure (like the alchemist, or Dean, possibly at great cost to himself) to try to prevent or preserve his angel family in whatever form he could? Lucifer as that embodiment of pure destruction (like the machine in "9" or SkyNet) that Michael couldn't stop once, either because he wasn't strong enough physically, emotionally or psychologically, but knows he has to be stopped? So created a "weapon" in Dean that can and will do what he could not? Show is already telling us that a hybrid creature - Jesse - is possibly more powerful than all the Hosts of Heaven. If a demon/human creation is that strong, what about an angel/human creation?
Nephilim, despite all the angel lore in SPN, is also something that's been rather conspicuously absent in Show canon. Despite angel/human sex already having been explored (4.10) and honestly, Anna's whole story was very much Genesis 6: 1-4 (heh, Dean functioning as the "daughters of men", which is all too fitting for any of us who've spent WAY too much time dissecting Dean's Anima side. It's prevalent, to say the least). Also touching on it (*snorts*) again in FTBYAM. Also the idea of angel/human procreation, though indirectly and very briefly, mentioned in 5.06 (even if it's by way of Castiel's negation of Jesse being Lucifer's child). So it's there in canon, yet not either. I'd probably say something Show has interestingly skirted around but never quite officially made part of canon.
Incidentally, Noah gets a mention in 5.10 (by way of Bobby and the last time the angel of Death made an appearance, "Noah was building a boat." LOL). In some versions of the Noah story, the Great Flood happened because God (by the insistence of some of the angels) felt the Nephilim were too great a threat to live, so Flooded the Earth in attempt to destroy them (though supposedly some might have survived anyway). Here we have "Supernatural's" angels, all too willing to let an Armageddon happen that will either "roast the planet alive" or, and this one is the supposed better option, destroy a huge portion of it. Seems they're aligning the world for SPN-equivalent's of a(nother) Great Flood. Why? We already have one human/supernatural hybrid we know that is an incredible threat to the Hosts. You can also bet the angels probably haven't been forthcoming about absolutely everything (in these prophecies or otherwise). What if there's also a prophecy out there signaling the angels' destruction? Possibly by direct way of humanity? In order to prevent this - like Herod killing all the young male children in his Kingdom in attempt to futilely thwart the (largely false and paranoid) interpretations of prophecy - the angels try to remove the threat (or cut it down enough) to save themselves? Realizing the madness of this, Michael - though powerful he'd still have been only one angel - possibly did something very drastic to counterbalance it? His own equivalent of fleeing to Egypt, putting Moses in a bulrush boat and floating him down the Nile or Isis taking herself and her newborn son, Horus, into hiding? Castiel does seem to be functioning as an Isis or a Bithiah protector figure for Dean and Sam.
With all the Michael business focused on Dean? It's been distracting. However, there's been a conspicuous lack of mention of "Jesus Christ" or the "Second Coming", despite the major role the figure plays in Revelation. However, the only one who even comes close to fulfilling that role in the story so far is Dean ("The righteous man who started it, is the only one who can finish it." The Alpha and the Omega, in other words). Maybe Jesse, but he's already been labeled as the antichrist. So yeah, I'm thinking Dean is probably not a vessel or Michael, but SPN's equivalent of the Second Coming (though perhaps created by Michael to try to save his family, both the celestial and the chthonic).
I keep wondering about the notion of Dean being a "weapon" (which was hinted by way of Anna, even back in OTHOAP). Zachariah claims Dean is "Michael's sword", but also claims it's because Dean is Michael's vessel. I have wondered if Zachariah - as angels are not perfect, they are prone to error - has gotten the "weapon" and "Michael's sword" part mistaken? Dean is not a vessel, but literally a weapon, designed specifically by Michael to save the world/his family and fulfill his duty to his Father's creations? Dean is something all new (or perhaps not unlike Jesse - or the antithesis of Jesse - being Lucifer's most valuable weapon)? Now this could easily just be me and having seen the movie "9") one too many times. However, that whole movie was about these creatures (homunculi) created (by way of Alchemy) as a means to counterbalance the end of civilization/humanity. A last ditch means to preserve life, in whatever form, and destroy the machine - created by humans, of course - that which ended (the human) civilization in the first place. However, you get a similar story in "Terminator 2" or any other story that's involved created and/or artificial life or A.I. (though also often times the source of destruction) as the source of humanity's or life's salvation or preservation. In the case of "Supernatural", it is the human world (family) that needs saving, but also based on every emo angel's sob story we've heard, the Heavenly family is in dire need of salvation too and apparently has been so for some time. Since before Creation.
Might Michael have been like the alchemist in "9"? Realizing that his angelic family was doomed, so created a countermeasure (like the alchemist, or Dean, possibly at great cost to himself) to try to prevent or preserve his angel family in whatever form he could? Lucifer as that embodiment of pure destruction (like the machine in "9" or SkyNet) that Michael couldn't stop once, either because he wasn't strong enough physically, emotionally or psychologically, but knows he has to be stopped? So created a "weapon" in Dean that can and will do what he could not? Show is already telling us that a hybrid creature - Jesse - is possibly more powerful than all the Hosts of Heaven. If a demon/human creation is that strong, what about an angel/human creation?
Nephilim, despite all the angel lore in SPN, is also something that's been rather conspicuously absent in Show canon. Despite angel/human sex already having been explored (4.10) and honestly, Anna's whole story was very much Genesis 6: 1-4 (heh, Dean functioning as the "daughters of men", which is all too fitting for any of us who've spent WAY too much time dissecting Dean's Anima side. It's prevalent, to say the least). Also touching on it (*snorts*) again in FTBYAM. Also the idea of angel/human procreation, though indirectly and very briefly, mentioned in 5.06 (even if it's by way of Castiel's negation of Jesse being Lucifer's child). So it's there in canon, yet not either. I'd probably say something Show has interestingly skirted around but never quite officially made part of canon.
Incidentally, Noah gets a mention in 5.10 (by way of Bobby and the last time the angel of Death made an appearance, "Noah was building a boat." LOL). In some versions of the Noah story, the Great Flood happened because God (by the insistence of some of the angels) felt the Nephilim were too great a threat to live, so Flooded the Earth in attempt to destroy them (though supposedly some might have survived anyway). Here we have "Supernatural's" angels, all too willing to let an Armageddon happen that will either "roast the planet alive" or, and this one is the supposed better option, destroy a huge portion of it. Seems they're aligning the world for SPN-equivalent's of a(nother) Great Flood. Why? We already have one human/supernatural hybrid we know that is an incredible threat to the Hosts. You can also bet the angels probably haven't been forthcoming about absolutely everything (in these prophecies or otherwise). What if there's also a prophecy out there signaling the angels' destruction? Possibly by direct way of humanity? In order to prevent this - like Herod killing all the young male children in his Kingdom in attempt to futilely thwart the (largely false and paranoid) interpretations of prophecy - the angels try to remove the threat (or cut it down enough) to save themselves? Realizing the madness of this, Michael - though powerful he'd still have been only one angel - possibly did something very drastic to counterbalance it? His own equivalent of fleeing to Egypt, putting Moses in a bulrush boat and floating him down the Nile or Isis taking herself and her newborn son, Horus, into hiding? Castiel does seem to be functioning as an Isis or a Bithiah protector figure for Dean and Sam.
With all the Michael business focused on Dean? It's been distracting. However, there's been a conspicuous lack of mention of "Jesus Christ" or the "Second Coming", despite the major role the figure plays in Revelation. However, the only one who even comes close to fulfilling that role in the story so far is Dean ("The righteous man who started it, is the only one who can finish it." The Alpha and the Omega, in other words). Maybe Jesse, but he's already been labeled as the antichrist. So yeah, I'm thinking Dean is probably not a vessel or Michael, but SPN's equivalent of the Second Coming (though perhaps created by Michael to try to save his family, both the celestial and the chthonic).
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Date: 2009-11-26 12:03 am (UTC)I think I said the same over on Tuesday's LJ, but I am still waiting for Castiel to admit personal reasons for making the choices he's made. I know Misha has said he believes Castiel didn't want to lose Dean's friendship, but it would be nice Cas admits that, in canon. However, I also actually like that personal reasons aren't what Castiel claims first. Most of the other angels that have felt hard-done-by almost can't seem to wait to spill out their grievances, either about how God, their brothers or angel society in general wronged them somehow. Castiel though, he fell because Dean made him realize the angels' plan may not have been best for humanity, despite the Paradise delusion he had post-Bible boot camp. He fell dedicating himself to something much bigger, well past his own interests (not unlike Dean) .... however, I still would like to hear those personal interests.
He's such a well-rounded character now, I think there will come a time admitting he has them. The actor portraying him is convinced they're there, but I imagine it may take something big for Cas to finally come clean. I wouldn't be shocked either it's probably around the same time, probably shortly after, Cas opening the panic room door in 4.21 and the betrayal of Anna come out.
He's still loyal, just to his Father AND Dean. If anything he's probably the only angel who hasn't fallen, with the exception of Michael, the rest of them just don't realize it yet.
I wouldn't be shocked that's exactly what happens, most of the angels either reform or get booted out. Probably booted out. I just don't think Heaven can possibly stay as it currently is, a big shake-up has to be in store.
now that Cas has taken her place as Dean's angel buddy, maybe that will happen.
For some reason, I keep picturing Dean getting very badly injured. Castiel can't allow him to die (whether he's admitted to personal reasons for that yet though is up in the air), so gives up a huge portion of his grace to save him. Then again, that could lead to an interesting conundrum if Castiel simply cannot save Dean, Cas may feel he has no other option than call Zachariah for help, despite him currently Public Enemy #2 in Heaven. You know he'd do it, then pray Dean's will holds out to keep saying no to being a vessel. This almost seems too tempting for Kripke not to do.
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Date: 2009-11-26 04:10 pm (UTC)It does. Kripke does love his character whump. I hope something like that happens on the show.
'He fell dedicating himself to something much bigger, well past his own interests (not unlike Dean) .... however, I still would like to hear those personal interests.'
Me too! Although it does make Cas unique amongst the angels; as you said, all of the other angels can't seem to wait to spill out their grievances. It kind of reminds me of the time a shapeshifter said that Dean was jealous because Sam got away from hunting, but of course Dean never told anyone that.
'I just don't think Heaven can possibly stay as it currently is, a big shake-up has to be in store.'
Probably. Who knows, maybe that's why God disappeared; he wanted to see which angels remained loyal and which didn't while he wasn't there.