spn - 5.06 - i believe that children are our future

[retro_eidas]

This is going to be totally rambly and probably forgetting things since I haven't rewatched yet, but initial impressions....

• "God help me, I couldn't do it." As in, Mary 2.0 couldn't kill her Antichrist demonspawn baby. Although that line was interesting. Clue that God Himself doesn't want that kid to die? He wouldn't I suppose, if the kid does have a choice / can do good in the world or at least have a use that doesn't destroy the universe... or that is God's intent and our intrepid heroes got to take down God? IDK
  
  
• Mary 2.0 was played by the actress who played Sheriff Carter's pregnant sister from "Eureka". I suppose she likes playing pregnant chicks?
  
  
• I can't say I'd be crying too hard at the possibility the kid might waste all the heavenly hosts considering, sorry Cas, most of Castiel's brothers we've seen are TOTAL APOCALYPSE-STARTING ASSHOLES. Maybe we might meet some redeemable yet, but that remains to be frickin' seen.
  
  
• Although that also obviously means Cas better get to the Falling and get adopted married into the Winchester clan, toute suite.
  
  
• That kid who played Jesse was awesome. One of the better guest actors they've had. Also seems pretty obvious he was named after Jesse Custer. Time of the (antichrist) Preacher, folks.
  
  
• This ep felt WAY more like classic Dean-Sam than last week's labored attempts.
  
  
• I didn't really have a problem with Castiel getting in Sam's grill like that (nope, still haven't forgotten S4, Sammy). However, since Sam was clearly being portrayed as the compassionate, understanding Voice of Reason in the ep and Cas the dbag angel hard ass, the more I think they really are keeping the reveal of Cas letting Sam out of the panic room (and helping capture Anna) in their back pockets, waiting to spring that on the boys. Of course, only after they've all made nice and are comfortable and probably had some decisive victory in making Zachariah's life hell. Also bet *anything* it's going to be Zachariah who spills the beans too. To get back at Cas and break-up his alliance with the boys.
  
  
• Did anyone else think John vs Sam during the Castiel vs Sam? Dean was caught in the middle of both, trying to play peacemaker.
  
  
• Batshit Dean/Cas shipper as I am, my mind totally interpreted pissy!Cas as him angry at Sam for how he treated Dean last season. Shippiness aside, I could actually see Cas being overprotective of Dean, which would sort of make him more of an anti-John than John stand-in (and yeah, the less this Dean/Cas shipper thinks of Cas=John in any way THE BETTER!! *cringes*).

Comments

[amaresu]

I am getting really sick of the Cas-let-Sam-out argument because it implies that from that point on Sam isn't responsible for his actions. I'll file the hitting Bobby, car thefts, and blood drinking-with sex, under Junkie Looking for a Fix. Everything after that? That was Sam and I find it really awful that so many people seem to be trying to take away Sam's agency in this matter. Sam made choices. Sam killed the nurse and trusted Ruby over Dean.

Castiel? Castiel broke the junkie out of detox.

[22by7.livejournal.com]

Thank you.

[eido.livejournal.com]

I don't mind the whole panic room incident coming out, but then I'm coming at it from a standpoint of believing it would ultimately make Castiel's relationship with the boys stronger after any sort of angst. However, too often I'm seeing that argument coming from certain sections of fandom that seemed to be counting down the minutes until the Dean/Sam/Cas alliance implodes in on itself or compelling Dean-Sam to shun Cas or something and they're using that panic room incident as some of their primary ammo. And I honestly do not think it's going to go down that way if it goes down at all.

Funny thing is, after any initial surprise, I think Sam would have the least problem with the knowledge of Cas being the one who let him out. He knows what he did.

[amaresu]

And that's my problem with the incident. Too many people are using it as an excuse for Sam's actions. I want it to come out and have repercussions, but I don't want it to be Sam's free pass. I don't think it will be, but too many people are treating it as such.