specs for reboot ST sequel(s)

[retro_eidas]

I'm sure I'm not alone with these thoughts, but I can't imagine the nemesis was named as he was for nothing. Nero. Maybe JJA and posse only chose the name because it sounded cool, but I sort of took that as a harbinger of doom for the Romulans. Their planet might not implode this time, but perhaps - like it's real life namesake - the Empire is destined to get overrun by barbarians (Klingons)?

The Klingons aren't going to listen to reason about their armada destroyed by a future Romulan. Mostly because the only ones confirming that would be Romulans themselves and UFoP, neither of which the Klingons get along with. They're going to be pissed off and Romulans will probably feel the full force of it.

It's possible Romulans could try to broker peace, if not with the UFoP necessarily, but maybe with the Vulcans. Either to save their own asses (afraid of retribution or threats of coup to steal that weapons tech Nero had which they do not) and/or any genuine sympathy for what happened to Vulcan. In the original timeline there were some Romulans - tired of all the conflict between Romulans and Vulcans - in an underground movement to reconnect with their ancient roots. There's a particular Romulan Commander I'm thinking of, although she might not be a Commander this early in the timeline. If she does show up, I'm considering that potential angst between Spock/Uhura.

Of course, if the Romulans try to reach out for peace with the UFoP, that's not going to sit well with the Klingons either. They'd feel trapped between Romulan and UFoP space and, as they do, retaliate in the way they tend to. Although knowing they probably wouldn't hold up against both the Romulans and UFoP, they might make some unholy alliance of their own. With whom, I don't know, but I know in AU DS9 story they did make an alliance with Cardassians.

As I'm not convinced the Romulan vs. Klingon skirmish would stay within their own borders, it would suck particularly for the Federation as Starfleet lost 7 ships and their crews. Also nearly the entire graduating class at the Academy. Any new battle-ready ships hot off the assembly line would be manned by largely inexperienced crews or crews imported from science vessels or space stations. Then there's not only any likely Romulan vs. Klingon war to deal with, but watching their borders from anyone else wanting to try to take advantage of a debilitated Federation.

Young reboot!Kirk going to have a trial by fire that young original recipe Kirk never had to face? I don't know how it's going to be avoided tbh.

Comments

[stoplookingup.livejournal.com]

All of this makes sense, and yet I find myself hoping that in the next movie they go off in some entirely different direction. You're right, they have left an enormous mess at the end of this movie, but...I'd rather not see Klingons OR Romulans. I'd love it if they'd come up with a more way-out sci fi premise that doesn't necessarily involve an us-against-them conflict. A first contact, or an exploration mission gone wrong, or something...else. I know it's unlikely because the potential for big explosions would be more limited, but I"m sure they can find a few things to blow up.

[eido.livejournal.com]

You're right, they have left an enormous mess at the end of this movie, but...I'd rather not see Klingons OR Romulans.

Although, I'm not entirely sure they can't not deal with the fall-out, particularly with the Klingon Empire. I mean... a whole armada gone? Klingons have picked fights for less and they've never really gotten along with the Romulans. Maybe there could be an all new, out-there skiffy threat or first contact and any Klingon-Romulan war us off-screen, but I probably wouldn't count on it. Klingons are one of those pop culty things everyone - if they know anything about Trek - knows about. Understandably, I'm guessing that's your reason in avoiding them, but I suppose I am sort of curious on what the rebooted versions would be like. At least, I'd have to think they'd be more than drunkenly calling the Enterprise garbage or contriving to put annoying, bratty teenagers in the Klingon High Council.

However, with regards to old skool stuff, JJA has also already name-dropped Khan. However, it's all really early yet.

I know it's unlikely because the potential for big explosions would be more limited, but I"m sure they can find a few things to blow up.

I think one thing they'd have to do more than any other (and "Enterprise" tried but still sort of failed at) is make the Klingons a real threat again. Give us a good reason why this reboot Starfleet - which does seem to have shinier, more whizbang tech - is so scared/apprehensive of them.

ETA. Not just for the seemingly better tech either, but this Starfleet has had to deal with an ally planet imploding before their eyes and one of the key UFoP races nearly brought to the brink of extinction. The stakes are so much higher in this world. The Klingons would have to match those kind of stakes. If they're still drunkenly insulting the Enterprise and barely above Conan the Barbarian level of dimension, that just ain't gonna fly. They'll come off even bigger caricatures than they were even in the various series.

[stoplookingup.livejournal.com]

All true. I guess what I'm shying away from is another story driven primarily by the big bad who hates us and wants us dead -- even if the backstory is more complicated than that. I'm eager to see these reboot characters deal with a different type of challenge, but I'm sure you're right that they can't just let this hot mess lie.