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retro_eidas ([personal profile] retro_eidas) wrote2007-05-19 07:41 pm
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Dr Who - 307 - 42

So that's what would happen if Jerry Bruckheimer became one of Doctor Who's producers? Lots of screaming. Lots of running about. More Doctor torture. Lots of sweating. Did I mention the sweating (according to the Confidential, that was baby oil... kinky)?


PERIL!


Although, sadly, there's never a lot I can ever manage to say after watching Jerry Bruckheimer movies. They're very loud and boisterous popcorn affairs that don't require much discussion afterwards. There was much prerequisite heart-pumping peril, hot chick running around (Martha Martha Martha... oh you make me question my heterosexuality), hot hero (errr, not)saving the day apart from his damsel-in-distress (at that minute anyway), some glorious self-sacrifice and even the gratuitous make-out scene (I'd have made out with Riley too, even if he looked a bit like Jason Statham / Elliot Yamin's lovechild which is my sick mind ruining. things. for. me.). Which is good, as you can not use one's brain every once in awhile. I'm sure there's something there if I did put my mind to it. Like with the Eliot obsession last week this season? and the fire/burning theme in several eps, I was reminded of Eliot's mention of Buddha in "The Waste Land" and the Buddhist connotation of burning. "Burning" = (the temptation of) earthly desires. "Burn with me, Martha." Ahem No, innuendo at all or anything.


"Burn with shag me, Martha"


However, it was actually Martha - not our token hot (literally and aesthetically) hero - who saved the day. Martha as The Doctor. I also had much love for her managing to keep it together despite the Doctor's heartbreaking screams of agony. That she just didn't start crying and falling apart, but kept it together to do what had to be done. It was certainly effecting her, but she didn't let it break her. Also and this is kind of gratuitous (Heh! What wasn't in this ep?! But that's OK!), I also really enjoyed that billowing of Martha's "NOW!" at Riley and Other Guy demanding they expel the remaining fuel/sun particles. Quite... godly she was there.





Eight times Martha Jones was the win.


I'd worship at the Church of St. Martha too, Riley. For she is a goddess made of an ambrosia consisting of win and awesome and even the Doctor wants to "burn with" her. Not to mention, Riley, Martha Companion #30161501... and he's a hot tamale! You go Doctor Jones!


"I'm not going to lose her."



Staring down a sun for her.


We have the angry Sun (nicking ideas from Solaris) in this ep... but it's the Moon highlighted in "Smith & Jones"? Heh. I'm sure there's something there but... I just rewatched that bit with the Doctor in the orange space suit (damn, he can work orange like nobody's business) and I've lost my train of thought.

ANYWAY! There certainly was a lot of Not Shipping in this episode, was there not?


It's hugpr0n! What is there to say?



Keys to the castle. Officially shacked-up.


The hugpr0n which was quite awesome (and it was Thank God You're/I'm Alive hugpr0n which is always excellent to have, no matter who's doing it... it just happens to be the two with the crazy Not Sexual Chemistry in this case). How she refuses to leave him and he practically has to force her to go. She also gets to shack-up gets a TARDIS key and it was lovely. She looked at the key with such reverence. Like the Doctor was about to pour heavenly aether in her hands. Like he was handing her over charge of the Holy Grail... or something. Frequent flyer privileges! Now only if they'd join the (Million) Mile High club! (oh the pr0ny giggles of freeze frame!) Damn you Rusty, damn you for making me Not Canon Ship them.

So Mrs. Jones is playing informant to Saxon's Men In Black? You can't really blame the woman, especially after that first phone call.


Oh Lord, she knows not what she does. Srsly.


::woman screams bloody murder in the background::
Mum: WTF?!
Martha: Nothing!! It was NOTHING I SAY!!! NOW WHO THE FUCK HAD MORE NUMBER ONES ELVIS OR THE BEATLES ANSWERMEDAMNYOU!!!!

That just isn't a little bit mad... it's a whole frakking mess of mad. Not to mention Lazaruzilla last week which, you know, I can't imagine mum is all that accustomed to seeing outside of, well, Jerry Bruckheimer popcorn affairs. Top that off with seemingly put together gov't type edjumacating her on the (disastrous, dangerous, mad) life of the Doctor? Well... I suppose if I was Mrs. Jones I'd have called the Feebies too. The Feebies who were clearly evil, but with your daughter going mad, it's understandable the Clearly Evilness escaping her.

*snorts* I guess I can ramble on about Jerry Bruckheimer more than I thought! ;P

**Editing because I can't believe of all the talkiness I've done of this ep, I haven't mentioned Douglas Adams once. *facepalms* Although not that the ep was very Douglas Adams (more, erm, Jack Bauer in Space), but I would think "The answer is... 42" applies somehow. If anything that whole general What It Means To Be Human (or Making Life Not Inconsequential. Not be Prufrock / Rage rage against the dying of the light, in other words) thing this season.

[identity profile] gryffinclaw.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yay for Martha saving him! Yay for him telling her he was scared. Bless.

Ok, is the confidential worth watching? Yes? No?

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
The Doctor was so very very vulnerable then. That just doesn't happen (ever). And methinks that probably was foreshadowy for the finale in some way which means the finale needs to get here NOW.

Dunno about the Confidential. Haven't watched it yet ;P (read the baby oil thing elsewhere). Although I heard some other things, I may actually watch it this time.

And somebody is fast with the icons! Damn. Goa'uld!Doctor already.

[identity profile] a-caged-heart.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Just spent some time over on OG...*scrubs off bile*. Hmmm...seems the folks there are a bit mixed over the episode. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing it yet (I keep waiting for it to magically appear on my monitor...don't know what the problem is...*ahem*)

From the blips and blurps I have seen and heard, it looks to be pretty good, not great, but good. I'll wait and see for myself (yeah, I'll like it no doubt, I'm so predictable) I cannot wait to see the Doc scared, and admitting it.

[identity profile] gryffinclaw.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Watched the confidential, it was alright.

Lol the icon was made a week ago from the extended preview.

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
You poor soul, you should join comms of anticipation relief (http://eido.livejournal.com/82607.html) to quell your withdrawal. I post there like mad before I watch eps, helps with the No Who craziness.

It was quite entertaining I thought, but I like the running about non-stop peril-turned-up-to-11 every once in awhile. ;)

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Watched the confidential, it was alright.

I don't usually watch them meself, mostly because I don't really care how long it took them to render flame effects on the cheap or where they found the snappy Halo helmet and the like.

Lol the icon was made a week ago from the extended preview.

Cheater :P

Although I do think I will cap for emphasis like I did last week. There were some pretty things to be had in the ep.

[identity profile] a-caged-heart.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I've lurked around for some time now. <~< I'm such a sneak.

Just saw the ep, and it was quite good I must say. I have to say that I wish the show was in an hour long format, as we have here in the states. (but I guess it all evens out when you think about all the added commercials and such, but it just seems a bit longer for some reason.)

Oh geez, the poor guy is getting the snot beat out of him this season, isn't he? He was spot on in that ep, no OTT, just pure pain. But even after all the thrills on the ship, the truly scary part was Martha's mom. She scares the beejeebers out of me. (and the men in black bit...HAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!)

All in all, if you scrape all the extraneous non-regular cast stuff away, Martha and the Doctor had some great moments here. He's a royal mess and she is really beginning to see just how deep a mess he really is. With all that is coming up, she's going to have her hands full with him. He's going to continue to get bloody and it's going to get much worse. Will she stick with him through thick and thin? Will Martha's Mum see the light or will she continue to scare the hell out of me? What of Martha's Dad? What role will he, the brother and sister play in all this? (is this starting to sound like the end of a Batman episode? Holy sonic screwdriver Batman!!!)

To hell with turned-up-to-11...we are heading full throttle to level 15!!!!!

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh geez, the poor guy is getting the snot beat out of him this season, isn't he?

Holy crap, he really really is. It's one thing that they seem to be upping the peril for him this season, but it's the idea he can't get out of it without some horrible screaming, agony and torture (and there's only MORE torture to come! That trailer for next week??). It's crazy! I'd say that hubris has finally shown up at his door and it's taking it's due physically, but yikes. Talk about being put through the blender! I just... can't imagine what's going to happen to him in the finale if it's this bad already. Maybe this whole David Tennant signing for season 4 is a bunch of misdirection and Doc actually will be regenerating? Or DT is signed on, but he's not playing the Doctor?

All in all, if you scrape all the extraneous non-regular cast stuff away

Because they were rather extraneous. Maybe with the exception of Riley (but just barely), they were a bunch of borderline glorified redshirts. Apart from that one idiot woman who was a total redshirt. She turns off her radio to bitch about her job while there's a psycho killer on the loose? ::rollseyes:: Like the Who equivalent of taking drugs or having sex in Jason/Freddy movies! dohHOH!

Martha and the Doctor had some great moments here.

I probably shouldn't get too much into this or I'll ramble on for twice as long, but ... oh my god YES. Even in the rather meh eps (::glares at Daleks::) their dynamic and relationship are almost always major win.

He's a royal mess and she is really beginning to see just how deep a mess he really is.

What really struck me is comparing this end with the end of Girl in the Fireplace. Both Rose and Martha can tell how unhappy he is despite him pretending he isn't, but instead of Rose all but getting the brush-off (then pulled away by Mickey, so topic forever closed as was any potential for some real drama/development needed in the relationship post-regeneration). Martha, on the other hand, makes it very clear she knows he's pretending right then... and the Doctor actually acknowledges it by giving her the key (like a peace offering... Rose never really got a peace offering, mostly because she became so complacent to the Doctor's behavior). It's a sign of longevity. So it was interesting scene, but kind of a paradoxal. He puts these obvious walls around himself and Martha clearly doesn't like it since it goes back to the things he never says she confronted him about in Gridlock, but at the same time acknowledges how much he really needs her. She was foreshadowed by Donna as the companion who will "make him stop" and I think he kind of gets that in this ep.... but also because he likes her, probably a lot more than he would admit.

I just hope the key wasn't some attempt of his (or foreshadowing) of him trying to change Martha to be more complacent to his stonewalling that Rose kind of fell victim of. Mostly because I don't think the stonewalling is doing him any favors. It needs to stop and I'd hope Martha is finally the one to make it happen. She's been pretty good about it so far.

Will she stick with him through thick and thin?

I'd like to think she will. He practically had to force her to leave him in this ep, despite the very imminent danger he posed.

Will Martha's Mum see the light or will she continue to scare the hell out of me?

I'd like to think she'll come around when Saxon shows how EVOL he is, but then I also have real doubts Saxon will be some conventionally moustache-twisting villain of obvious EVOL that any sane person wouldn't side with. He'd probably be a lot more like some uberskilled Snake Oil Salesman. Hell, he's a politician and one up for a *big* election from the sounds of things (and why am I getting flashbacks of Lex Luthor for President?). Maybe Mum will take the Stick to the evil you know stance, even if Saxon does eventually show his true face the public doesn't get to see?

[identity profile] sparkly-oats.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs* I adore your reviews, and you even added the pretty pics. LOL @ your description of Bruckheimer movies, totally describes this ep, I think my jaw was on the floor for most of this one.

hot chick running around (Martha Martha Martha... oh you make me question my heterosexuality)

She does run well, doesn't she..haha you know Freema is one of those actresses who can cry prettily and break your hear at the same time. I of couse only did my ugly cry during the angsty bits..*sigh*

I'd worship at the Church of St. Martha too, Riley. For she is a goddess made of an ambrosia consisting of win and awesome and even the Doctor wants to "burn with" her. Not to mention, Riley, Martha Companion #30161501... and he's a hot tamale! You go Doctor Jones!

Amen! I laughed out loud when I realised Riley was Martha's gazillionth companion. You said it all along, and I can't wait to see what other companions our godess will pick up along the way.

I just rewatched that bit with the Doctor in the orange space suit (damn, he can work orange like nobody's business) and I've lost my train of thought.

You know, orange *is* the national colour of the Netherlands, I say that means something. David was obviously trying to send me an elaborate colourcoded lovenote *fans self* sorry the heat has gotten to me.

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-05-21 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
you know Freema is one of those actresses who can cry prettily and break your hear at the same time.

Probably why they've had her cry twice in 7 eps. Of course she does just about everything prettily, doesn't she? ;)

Amen! I laughed out loud when I realised Riley was Martha's gazillionth companion.

And he believed in her, like apparently Martha believes in the Doctor. So Martha Being The Doctor has happened quite a lot this season.

You know, orange *is* the national colour of the Netherlands, I say that means something.

The Doctor TARDISes Martha into Amsterdam's red-light district for the finale? ;)

[identity profile] juanitadark.livejournal.com 2007-05-22 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
He's the sun, she's the moon.

But dude, keys to the TARDIS, that's like the keys to his flat.

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-05-22 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
He's the sun, she's the moon.

And we have both of them standing on the veranda looking down on Earth in S&J ;) Although that reminds me of those early S3 promos for some reason, the one with the split screen of their faces. Two halves of a whole. I'd bet the blue/red thing ties to this as well.

But dude, keys to the TARDIS, that's like the keys to his flat.

Oh yes and the Confidential also said as much. ;)

[identity profile] juanitadark.livejournal.com 2007-05-22 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the split screen promos are deliberate. She does represent the other half of him and vice versa.

Either they had another trip in the TARDIS between this and TLE or they had subtextual sex. That's how I'm thinking of it.

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-05-22 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the split screen promos are deliberate. She does represent the other half of him and vice versa.

She certainly has been functioning in the Doctor's role a lot this season, hasn't she? The Doc/Companion relationship has felt much more equal lately than it has previously.

And you know, I just realized something else....

He's the sun, she's the moon.

By galactic law, the Moon is considered neutral territory, yes? What does Martha play in her warring family? The peacemaker (aka, neutral ground, almost literally you see her as the neutral ground in the phonetag scene with her dysfunctional family when we first see her).

Dude. Martha is the moon!

[identity profile] juanitadark.livejournal.com 2007-05-22 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, I wasn't being glib when I said it. The imagery stands. The moon must orbit the earth but also the sun.

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-05-22 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Being a go-to image, even plot device, for many an epic finale (not necessarily Who, but generally) and considering the aforementioned imagery, one might wonder if there could be potential for a solar eclipse this season? Perhaps on Election Judgement Day?

[identity profile] frail-entity.livejournal.com 2007-05-23 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry for the delay, please comment to this post! (http://community.livejournal.com/doctor_who_eps/47572.html?mode=reply)

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-05-24 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Done! ;)

[identity profile] sparkly-oats.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
We are just so in love with Freema, aren't we?! Everyone just about believes in Martha, cause she's solid and gets things done. *happy sigh* I love how that Martha Being The Doctor theme continues, (see Human Nature). Martha and the Doctor should SO come to Amsterdam, lol and our red light district is quite decent...if you think away the prostitutes. :p

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-06-01 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually don't mind the prostitutes (as long as they're behind glass), it turns things to the risque and that is a happy place for my Ten/Martha obsessed mind. ;)

[identity profile] sparkly-oats.livejournal.com 2007-06-01 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
So why haven't you written risque Martha/Ten fic, huh?!

[identity profile] eido.livejournal.com 2007-06-01 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Cuz me and fiction get along about as well as Jerry Falwell in a gay pride abortionist parade on a communist state holiday.

[identity profile] sparkly-oats.livejournal.com 2007-06-02 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
*sigh* no idea who this Jerry fellow is but I'm thinking you and fic writing are not compatible haha. Damn it :( See I like to write fic but the sheer talent in this fandom has scared the fic right out of me. So instead I read...and I was hoping to coax some smut out of you yet :p