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I haven't watched 5.17 yet and it's taking me an olympian level of resistance to not watch certain 5.18 clips (tho I read some of the comments). I should get a medal.
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It just dawned on me that this article has as much to do with Castiel now (and most of the rest of the angels, minus Joshua maybe) as it does Dean and Sam (though Sam, at least, always had Dean). It was probably relevant the moment Castiel showed up, but 5x16 made it official. Team Free Will really are orphaned heroes lost in the wilderness. Though what must that be like for Castiel, to always have had (yet not at all, really) a Father, but never had a Mother?

And I WILL have a Who reaction post, maybe later tonight or tomorrow and I don't even care it's late as hell. Loved it! The bowing to the Grand Moff Overlord has commenced! Ok, one tiny thing about the ep before any proper reaction.... )

Geronimo!

Apr. 3rd, 2010 08:31 am
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I told myself to watch "The End of Time" last night, but I completely forgot. Though, as Who goes, I'm hopeful that won't be a problem. I did watch the regeneration!

And damn, I hadn't realized how long it's been since I've used the Who tags. I'm going to have to give them a massage or something. They've gone all atrophied.
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I realize they probably deviated little from the original plot (despite the lack of Bubo BOO HISS!!), but I guess they're saving nothing for the theater then? This looks terrible, but my love of big cheesy fantasy swordfighting, I'll probably be buying this DVD anyway and it will sit between the original CotT and "Krull" on my DVD shelf.

Also, damn my girlcrush on Gemma Arterton. I think I'm already shipping Perseus/Io. *facepalm*
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I'm sure there's similarities to other dystopian stories like Fahrenheit 451 or 1984, but I'd just been watching "Equilibrium" and the whole emotionless dystopian world there seems similar to what Kripke was going for with some of the descriptions of angels and angel society. Though funny, Castiel was the only really emotionally-challenged one of all the angels. Maybe Anna somewhat after her Heel Face Turn. Otherwise the angels are hardly emotionless "marble statues". Heh. I don't know if that's supposed to say what a good little soldier Castiel was before Dean came along or Kripke just felt like fanboying "Equilibrium" one or two eps and promptly forgot about it in favor of angels as emo, smug bastards or dicks?

Without love, without anger, without sorrow, breath is just a clock... ticking. )
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Someone who knows way more about psychology than I could probably come up with an intriguing meta about how Famine's power basically supercharged the Id until the Ego was powerless to hold it back.

You might see that literally personified in Castiel as Ego being completely overwhelmed by Jimmy or the Jimmy urges as Id.

The reason why Dean wasn't affected may be because his Super-Ego is grossly overdeveloped, though to Famine read as him being "dead inside" (or that he simply didn't understand what he was seeing in Dean). Dean, for pretty much all his life but much more after 40 years in Hell (a decade of which he himself was torturer), is near constantly assailed by feelings of guilt and inferiority.
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Dark confession time: So, season 6 is confirmed. I sort of want 5x22 to be SPN's equivalent of "Dr. Strangelove" and Lucifer drops the bombs (or unleashes Croatoan or whatever) before any possible kicking of the bucket. Then every other episode, at least the second half of S6, is pretty much like "The End". Except maybe not quite as bad. Dean isn't some cold, apathetic hard-ass. Sam's still Sam and around. Cas isn't some tragic over-sexed and over-doped Last Man. Dean doesn't strip the Impala, etc.

Homebase eventually becomes Camp Chautauqua and they're still driving around fighting as many demons, Croatoan zombies or whatever other nasties while the gas holds out (hence the possible likening to S1/S2). Maybe also helping Cas try to find God. All the while holding it together as this dysfunctional, but still very real sort of family and the last bastion of hope for whatever humanity remains. Also leaders for whoever willing to believe in the supernatural and fight against it. Thus, Dean, Sam and Cas as the leaders of this small (but growing) band of human survivors. With the old religions fading and dying with the old world, here are also the first seeds planted for the future of the Winchester Gospel.

SPN gives us the post-apocalyptic story, even if they couldn't (or wouldn't) give us Apocalypse every ep.

But then I remember they have no monies and they can't do that. *sighs*
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...And Castiel's heart will be broken.

Seriously, angels and selective breeding? Between that and Michael's determinism BS, amongst other things, angel society is seriously Orwellian. I just haven't seen or read many dystopia stories where the Father/God/Emperor/Lord President or whatever sort of leader figure that was an ok sort of person... or they're totally impotent figureheads and some asshole, trumped-up underling is actually running the show. Castiel's heart is so going to be broken when he meets Daddy. He probably will be just like adult John - who doesn't call when his kids practically beg him for help or they get electrocuted (with Armageddon) - but a bigger heartless bastard. The big cold chessmaster (not) in the sky.... or perhaps off pretending to be the ideal family man with his own Adam while the whole of Earth & Heaven can go frak off?

Even not considering the whole dystopia motife of angels, SPN tends not to make it's heroes happy anyway, even (or especially) in it's endings. Oh Cas, the writers are going to make you cry yet.

ETA. Thinking about Dune, but another God option is he could be pulling a Leto II. As in God let the whole Armageddon situation happen (or instigated it himself) as means to eventually and purposefully collapse Heaven, or at least it's ruling angel body. Wanting to give the angels the same freedom (free will) he did humanity and live to make their own mistakes & triumphs, but also unfortunately already knowing the outcome for most of them via this gift. A la Leto II, possibly realizing early on that the situation in Heaven couldn't be sustained, so it has to be destroyed to be rebuilt. He left (for Earth), leaving the angels to fend for themselves, knowing things would go Lord of the Flies. So, the angel children implode in on themselves when the leaders of the angelic frater familias, Lucifer and Michael, destroy each other, while the human family remains (Dean, Sam and possibly Castiel adopted into it and any other angels who fight with them). Just as God intended it.
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Since they didn't use any songs in this ep thus no lyrics for me to quote in the cut and I'm not going to quote from Jensen's shitty movie, I'll quote Dante at random!

Love seemed cheerful while bringing in its arms a sleeping woman wrapped in a cloth and in its hands my heart. Love then woke her up and she ate this burning heart; it then went away crying. )
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I'm half-awake, so I'm going to blame the codine if this sounds stupid or weird.

I was having a depressing discussion with [livejournal.com profile] luminare_ardua earlier on how well SPN's S5 stands up when critiquing it from an apocalyptic fiction standpoint. Bottom line: Not particularly well.

It got me thinking how different S5 would have unfolded if they made a bigger statement with Lucifer in 5x01. Really big. Like maybe Luci persuaded some of those in control of the Big Red Buttons O' Doom and start, but not fully complete, MAD. Basically made the season like "The Road Warrior" with monster fighting meets "Jericho". Which, tbh, this season as it currently is (hence, the budget) wouldn't have needed that much tweaking to make it that way. It would be pretty much as it is now (though likely less funny eps), except the people they meet more panicky/upset/desperate due to immediate problems like avoiding fallout and communication breakdown. Topped off with whatever supernatural crisis the victims were facing. Gave a deeper personal emotional resonance to the story, even if the victims are strangers. Then increased the tension of every place they go until it hit boiling point in the finale (when food, meds, gas and *le gasp* toilet paper start getting scarce) and they're about to make that final showdown with Lucifer. Though - due to that considerably increased conflict - every case would have had to have a more direct connection to the Apocalypse/stopping Lucifer and as soon as possible, most likely. Which... would have been really welcomed, actually.

I'm not as versed on apocalyptic fiction as some folks I know, but I always thought that the core of most apocalyptic storylines is the human condition. How does one survive in such a horrific situation. The journey either being tragic, an agonizingly slow collapse until the inevitable dark end (Threads or Level 7) or hopeful in the face of incredible adversity (Alas, Babylon), sometimes a jarring mix of both (Children of Men). SPN's S5 is still about the human condition, but, to me, in not a particularly different way than it has been since Kripke had realized the humanistic story is where this show's strength lies (way back at the end of S1). So, for a basic SPN season, S5 hasn't been terrible, but as an apocalyptic story, something that I thought should have considerably upped the ante on the humanistic story already in place? Eh.
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Just a few brief observations about tonight's ep )

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