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retro_eidas) wrote2005-01-07 04:51 pm
retro_eidas) wrote2005-01-07 04:51 pm
More HP&HBP predictions
Due to boredom, there's still too much snow on the ground and I don't feel like going out and watching the POA movie at the moment. I have a few addendums and alterations to my last overly long set of HBP predictions.
-- In my last set, I remarked Harry ditching Privet Drive because he had some battle to fight. Since JKR claims Harry will be leaving for a more pleasant reason than a court hearing in HBP, I think that safely rules out any Death Eater duels or Harry running for his life. So, perhaps instead of a wizarding battle at the Dursley doorstep (or elsewhere), Harry leaves Privet Drive because...
--This probably isn't too much of a stretch (JKR has implied as much herself), but the Hogwarts Founders story will become MUCH more important in HBP. It's been waiting five books to really get fleshed out IMO and I don't think JKR is going to hold it off any longer. I really think their story is at the core of it all. The Marauders and the Trio? It's all been leading towards the Founders.
--Godric Gryffindor's son is the Half Blood Prince. Why the son and not Godric himself? Because Godric may be a little too predictable and possibly because a theoretical muggle/born wife and, in turn, a half-blood son is partly what I could imagine would cause such a rift to come to an apex between good friends (so says the Sorting Hat) like Salazar Slytherin and Godric Gryffindor. Scenario: Salazar tries to bar the kid from stepping foot in the school, the other Founders side with Godric ... so Slytherin leaves in protest. The actual moniker "half blood prince" possibly comes from Slytherin, en par to Draco's "Weasley is our King" and "Weasel King" jeers at Ron... "half blood prince" is a jeer at Godric's dirty blooded progeny.
--Tying into the above, Harry and Albus & Aberforth Dumbledore are Heirs of Gryffindor descended from this "Half Blood Prince". Moreover, the Potters and the Dumbledores are related. Speaking of relations...
--OOTP kind of started it with the Black family tree, but we'll learn more about other family ties (besides aforementioned). This also ties into the "blood status" prediction I made in my last predictions. I suspect that Harry might also possibly be related to the Longbottoms and Snapes too.
--The Pensieve on the Scholastic HBP cover belongs to the Slytherin family, passed down through the ages. Although Dumbledore is not part of the Slytherin family, it came into his safe-keeping (possibly after Tom's mother's death). Voldemort may not know it exists.
--We'll get to know Aberforth Dumbledore. Convenient because...
--Aberforth is going to be the new DADA teacher. He's going to be a pretty good one too. Possibly one of the best ones of the series. Despite any oddities and you know he's got to have a few. Anyone that Moody thinks is strange? That's one crazy guy. BUT, all this Aberforth exposition is ultimately tragic since...
--Both Dumbledores are probably going to die. Thus leaving Harry as the last Heir of Gryffindor... and the sole heir to the likely massive Dumbledore / Gryffindor estate & fortune. Including Fawkes, who I believe was originally Gryffindor's Phoenix. Methinks neither Dumbledore had any kids to leave anything to.
--The 6th years begin Human Transfiguration, possibly animagus and/or metamorphmagus training. I believe Hermione mentions this in GOF during a conversation about Krum's part shark transfiguration.
--The "Dark Lord" the prophecy speaks of is NOT referring to Voldemort, but Salazar Slytherin. Kind of makes sense in a way, doesn't it? It's true that Voldemort's "Lord" moniker seems to be self-proclaimed. Like Crazy Michael Jackson is the "King of Pop". Then again, "Lord" tends to be a title that's inherited, due to it's implications / ties to royalty. "Dark Lord" Voldemort is popularly known as the "Heir of Slytherin". It could stand to reason, the original "Dark Lord" is actually Salazar Slytherin. Voldemort either inherited his "Lord" title or proclaimed himself "Lord" in honor of "Dark Lord" Slytherin (whose title may have been legitimate. He did live in a time where those of power tended to have titles, royal or otherwise, of some kind. True that's based on Muggle societal classes, but then 1000 yrs ago, the Muggle and Wizarding worlds weren't so very separated as they are now. There may have been much more borrowing between those societies then there is now). Sort of tying into this....
--Godric is actually "Sir" Godric. Yup. He was a knight.
--The Hogwarts Founders are still alive in some form. Whether it be their portraits are hanging somewhere... or perhaps, just their brains?
--The Goblins play a larger role. They've kind of been peripheral characters so far, perhaps we may actually get an actual character with some real speaking lines?
--Sort of a shout-out to Neville's growing importance in HBP from my last predictions... this line from PS/SS will be significant, "It takes a great deal of courage to stand up to your enemies, but just as much to stand up to your friends."
--Lucius Malfoy is set up to be the new Minister, Snape the new Hogwarts Headmaster. However, neither will take up the roles until book 7.
--Draco becomes a major source of division of the Trio. Possibly with the help of...
--Umbridge *and* Rita Skeeter. Both still want some major revenge on Hermione. Thus, the team-up. In my last set of predictions, I pegged Rita as the lone avenger, but I'm throwing Umbridge in this time around. BTW, They're not too fond of Harry either, are they?
--Either Bellatrix and/or Narcissa are a metamorphmagus or an animagus. I have to think either of them have one of these abilities. Cousin Sirius was an animagus and cousin Nymphadora Tonks is a metamorphmagus (who was BORN with the ability). My guess is Bellatrix is the metamorphmagus and Narcissa possibly the animagus. Could you imagine the kind of damage they could cause if this were the case? It would be terrible and DELICIOUS! If JKR doesn't jump on this, I just don't know. It would be a huge wasted opportunity.
--Harry will be introduced to a new, mysterious and intriguing (possibly scary) place. Kind of a given since it happens in nearly every book. I mentioned a Gryffindor estate earlier and that might be it, however, it could be another place entirely. I have wondered if Harry might ever see the inside of Azkaban. That could be an interesting battleground methinks.
--If Voldemort does take Hogwarts, as I strongly suspect he will, Harry and company may have to flee to a safe place far away somewhere near the end of the book. Possibly Durmstrang or Beauxbatons. However, that might be more of a Book 7 prediction. I'd lean towards Durmstrang only because of Hermione's connection with Krum. Krum did invite Hermione to stay with him over the Summer. Although I presume at his family home. However, he may have also told her the secret location of Durmstrang and a way past whatever safeguards it has... just in case. Krum isn't an idiot. Hermione "talking about [Harry] very often" he likely knows the kind of trouble Hermione has gotten into in the past, much thanks to Harry. But, even without Hermione saying anything, simply being a close (muggleborn) friend with Harry Potter, Krum can figure out the kind of danger his friend Hermione is in. Telling her the location of Durmstrang, he may have given her a means of a hiding place if there was no other option (who'd suspect a Dark Arts heavy school like Durmstrang would hide a muggleborn?). Of course, Hermione drags Harry (some other friends/students, some professors & Order members) along with her... I wonder what Krum would say to that? The boy Krum considered a rival for Hermione's affections ... and still might?
RANDOM PREDICTIONS: DEATHS
--Percy Weasley: I do think he's going to snuff it in HBP. Possibly along with Charlie, Arthur and Molly. However, not before he and Harry exchange some words possibly. Specifically, I think Percy and Arthur are going to die together trying to fight off Death Eaters from the Burrow.
--Hedwig: A surprisingly sad death and one people wouldn't readily expect. However, it is a very possible one. She got targetted by Umbridge in OOTP. She also doesn't exactly blend in to the surroundings outside of a snowy or cloudy day. I could see her dying at Hogwarts, one of the Death Eater progeny possibly kills her to make Harry suffer. Since Harry will possibly inherit Fawkes from Dumbledore, that might soothe the wound a little bit.
--Albus Dumbledore: See above.
--Aberforth Dumbledore: Ditto.
--Kreacher: I don't know if JKR might make him the HP equivalent of Gollum (You don't like him in FOTR, then you kind of feel sorry for him in TT, but then you go back to hating him in ROTK). Maybe JKR might redeem him a bit in HBP, then turn him nasty again and kill him off. However, she just might off him and be done with it.
--Bellatrix Lestrange: Possibly in book 6, but I'd lean towards book 7. Probably her husband and brother-in-law too. And it will be painful.
--Firenze: This is probably why the other Centaurs were so antsy when Harry Potter was in their presence. Via their Divination, they knew one of their own was going to die because of or for him (an insult in Centaur terms most likely considering how they seem to view all humans. Laying down your life for one? What a horrible, humiliating thought indeed). Firenze may have resigned himself as the sacrificial lamb... thus the reason he took Dumbledore's teaching job.
That's all I've come up with so far, but if I've forgotten any, I'm sure I'll ramble on about them here again.
Rather amusing I forgot this one, considering how insane it is.
--Voldemort, at least how he is in his current incarnation, will be vanquished. And yes, I do mean in HBP. I'm a big supporter of Red Hen's Changeling Hypothesis. I do think s/he's on to something. Especially with that "Obliviate" idea. Harry (or possibly Neville) will take out Voldemort, possibly with something shockingly simple, like "Obliviate". One of them seemingly fulfilling the prophecy. Things will appear like they're finally over and done with, but of course they won't be. Either Voldemort comes back, stronger than ever or a greater threat will reveal itself in book 7. Maybe Voldemort was never really the true threat? Perhaps it was these elusive Knights of Walpurgis?
-- In my last set, I remarked Harry ditching Privet Drive because he had some battle to fight. Since JKR claims Harry will be leaving for a more pleasant reason than a court hearing in HBP, I think that safely rules out any Death Eater duels or Harry running for his life. So, perhaps instead of a wizarding battle at the Dursley doorstep (or elsewhere), Harry leaves Privet Drive because...
- He gets to train for Apparition early, so he has to go off somewhere secret and train with his friends?
- A wedding? Perhaps Hagrid/Maxime's or Bill/Fleur's? Or perhaps preparations for the wedding? I could imagine Hagrid asking Harry to be best man, so Harry is going to need new dress robes for that most likely.
- Frank/Alice Longbottom miraculously recover from their long catatonia? Neville invites Harry to a small, private celebratory party.
--This probably isn't too much of a stretch (JKR has implied as much herself), but the Hogwarts Founders story will become MUCH more important in HBP. It's been waiting five books to really get fleshed out IMO and I don't think JKR is going to hold it off any longer. I really think their story is at the core of it all. The Marauders and the Trio? It's all been leading towards the Founders.
--Godric Gryffindor's son is the Half Blood Prince. Why the son and not Godric himself? Because Godric may be a little too predictable and possibly because a theoretical muggle/born wife and, in turn, a half-blood son is partly what I could imagine would cause such a rift to come to an apex between good friends (so says the Sorting Hat) like Salazar Slytherin and Godric Gryffindor. Scenario: Salazar tries to bar the kid from stepping foot in the school, the other Founders side with Godric ... so Slytherin leaves in protest. The actual moniker "half blood prince" possibly comes from Slytherin, en par to Draco's "Weasley is our King" and "Weasel King" jeers at Ron... "half blood prince" is a jeer at Godric's dirty blooded progeny.
--Tying into the above, Harry and Albus & Aberforth Dumbledore are Heirs of Gryffindor descended from this "Half Blood Prince". Moreover, the Potters and the Dumbledores are related. Speaking of relations...
--OOTP kind of started it with the Black family tree, but we'll learn more about other family ties (besides aforementioned). This also ties into the "blood status" prediction I made in my last predictions. I suspect that Harry might also possibly be related to the Longbottoms and Snapes too.
--The Pensieve on the Scholastic HBP cover belongs to the Slytherin family, passed down through the ages. Although Dumbledore is not part of the Slytherin family, it came into his safe-keeping (possibly after Tom's mother's death). Voldemort may not know it exists.
--We'll get to know Aberforth Dumbledore. Convenient because...
--Aberforth is going to be the new DADA teacher. He's going to be a pretty good one too. Possibly one of the best ones of the series. Despite any oddities and you know he's got to have a few. Anyone that Moody thinks is strange? That's one crazy guy. BUT, all this Aberforth exposition is ultimately tragic since...
--Both Dumbledores are probably going to die. Thus leaving Harry as the last Heir of Gryffindor... and the sole heir to the likely massive Dumbledore / Gryffindor estate & fortune. Including Fawkes, who I believe was originally Gryffindor's Phoenix. Methinks neither Dumbledore had any kids to leave anything to.
--The 6th years begin Human Transfiguration, possibly animagus and/or metamorphmagus training. I believe Hermione mentions this in GOF during a conversation about Krum's part shark transfiguration.
--The "Dark Lord" the prophecy speaks of is NOT referring to Voldemort, but Salazar Slytherin. Kind of makes sense in a way, doesn't it? It's true that Voldemort's "Lord" moniker seems to be self-proclaimed. Like Crazy Michael Jackson is the "King of Pop". Then again, "Lord" tends to be a title that's inherited, due to it's implications / ties to royalty. "Dark Lord" Voldemort is popularly known as the "Heir of Slytherin". It could stand to reason, the original "Dark Lord" is actually Salazar Slytherin. Voldemort either inherited his "Lord" title or proclaimed himself "Lord" in honor of "Dark Lord" Slytherin (whose title may have been legitimate. He did live in a time where those of power tended to have titles, royal or otherwise, of some kind. True that's based on Muggle societal classes, but then 1000 yrs ago, the Muggle and Wizarding worlds weren't so very separated as they are now. There may have been much more borrowing between those societies then there is now). Sort of tying into this....
--Godric is actually "Sir" Godric. Yup. He was a knight.
--The Hogwarts Founders are still alive in some form. Whether it be their portraits are hanging somewhere... or perhaps, just their brains?
--The Goblins play a larger role. They've kind of been peripheral characters so far, perhaps we may actually get an actual character with some real speaking lines?
--Sort of a shout-out to Neville's growing importance in HBP from my last predictions... this line from PS/SS will be significant, "It takes a great deal of courage to stand up to your enemies, but just as much to stand up to your friends."
--Lucius Malfoy is set up to be the new Minister, Snape the new Hogwarts Headmaster. However, neither will take up the roles until book 7.
--Draco becomes a major source of division of the Trio. Possibly with the help of...
--Umbridge *and* Rita Skeeter. Both still want some major revenge on Hermione. Thus, the team-up. In my last set of predictions, I pegged Rita as the lone avenger, but I'm throwing Umbridge in this time around. BTW, They're not too fond of Harry either, are they?
--Either Bellatrix and/or Narcissa are a metamorphmagus or an animagus. I have to think either of them have one of these abilities. Cousin Sirius was an animagus and cousin Nymphadora Tonks is a metamorphmagus (who was BORN with the ability). My guess is Bellatrix is the metamorphmagus and Narcissa possibly the animagus. Could you imagine the kind of damage they could cause if this were the case? It would be terrible and DELICIOUS! If JKR doesn't jump on this, I just don't know. It would be a huge wasted opportunity.
--Harry will be introduced to a new, mysterious and intriguing (possibly scary) place. Kind of a given since it happens in nearly every book. I mentioned a Gryffindor estate earlier and that might be it, however, it could be another place entirely. I have wondered if Harry might ever see the inside of Azkaban. That could be an interesting battleground methinks.
--If Voldemort does take Hogwarts, as I strongly suspect he will, Harry and company may have to flee to a safe place far away somewhere near the end of the book. Possibly Durmstrang or Beauxbatons. However, that might be more of a Book 7 prediction. I'd lean towards Durmstrang only because of Hermione's connection with Krum. Krum did invite Hermione to stay with him over the Summer. Although I presume at his family home. However, he may have also told her the secret location of Durmstrang and a way past whatever safeguards it has... just in case. Krum isn't an idiot. Hermione "talking about [Harry] very often" he likely knows the kind of trouble Hermione has gotten into in the past, much thanks to Harry. But, even without Hermione saying anything, simply being a close (muggleborn) friend with Harry Potter, Krum can figure out the kind of danger his friend Hermione is in. Telling her the location of Durmstrang, he may have given her a means of a hiding place if there was no other option (who'd suspect a Dark Arts heavy school like Durmstrang would hide a muggleborn?). Of course, Hermione drags Harry (some other friends/students, some professors & Order members) along with her... I wonder what Krum would say to that? The boy Krum considered a rival for Hermione's affections ... and still might?
RANDOM PREDICTIONS: DEATHS
--Percy Weasley: I do think he's going to snuff it in HBP. Possibly along with Charlie, Arthur and Molly. However, not before he and Harry exchange some words possibly. Specifically, I think Percy and Arthur are going to die together trying to fight off Death Eaters from the Burrow.
--Hedwig: A surprisingly sad death and one people wouldn't readily expect. However, it is a very possible one. She got targetted by Umbridge in OOTP. She also doesn't exactly blend in to the surroundings outside of a snowy or cloudy day. I could see her dying at Hogwarts, one of the Death Eater progeny possibly kills her to make Harry suffer. Since Harry will possibly inherit Fawkes from Dumbledore, that might soothe the wound a little bit.
--Albus Dumbledore: See above.
--Aberforth Dumbledore: Ditto.
--Kreacher: I don't know if JKR might make him the HP equivalent of Gollum (You don't like him in FOTR, then you kind of feel sorry for him in TT, but then you go back to hating him in ROTK). Maybe JKR might redeem him a bit in HBP, then turn him nasty again and kill him off. However, she just might off him and be done with it.
--Bellatrix Lestrange: Possibly in book 6, but I'd lean towards book 7. Probably her husband and brother-in-law too. And it will be painful.
--Firenze: This is probably why the other Centaurs were so antsy when Harry Potter was in their presence. Via their Divination, they knew one of their own was going to die because of or for him (an insult in Centaur terms most likely considering how they seem to view all humans. Laying down your life for one? What a horrible, humiliating thought indeed). Firenze may have resigned himself as the sacrificial lamb... thus the reason he took Dumbledore's teaching job.
That's all I've come up with so far, but if I've forgotten any, I'm sure I'll ramble on about them here again.
Rather amusing I forgot this one, considering how insane it is.
--Voldemort, at least how he is in his current incarnation, will be vanquished. And yes, I do mean in HBP. I'm a big supporter of Red Hen's Changeling Hypothesis. I do think s/he's on to something. Especially with that "Obliviate" idea. Harry (or possibly Neville) will take out Voldemort, possibly with something shockingly simple, like "Obliviate". One of them seemingly fulfilling the prophecy. Things will appear like they're finally over and done with, but of course they won't be. Either Voldemort comes back, stronger than ever or a greater threat will reveal itself in book 7. Maybe Voldemort was never really the true threat? Perhaps it was these elusive Knights of Walpurgis?
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I recall Jo saying that the trio wouldn't become Animagi so I doubt there'll be in class training. I was always under the impression it was something they didn't usally teach at school, that Sirius, James and Peter went out of their way, and spent a long time learning it in secret, for Remus' benefit. That and it sounded like an adventure.
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btw, found that quote from Hermione in GOF:
"Badly wrong"? That sounds like some interesting plot potential. ;)
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They likely would have known about it (probably few others) and it probably did effect their relationship. For the worse. They're the epitome of what each other hate... being related to each other just drummed that anomosity in all the more. Almost like the taint or humiliation is carried in the blood. Not unlike Sirius felt about his family or Mrs. Black felt about him, Andromeda or the Weasleys.
it would have been mentioned at some point.
Not necessarily. If both the Potters and the Snapes tried to bury the relation, no one may even know about it these days but a select few. I could see Dumbledore being in that small clique. DD's relationship with Snape tends to be strained at best most of the time and this information doesn't really benefit Harry either (but would probably needlessly irritate / upset him if he learned of it), thus I could understand why - if this were true - he hasn't told Harry about it.
James not acknowledging his relation to Snape, vice versa, would also be a nice parallel to Harry not admitting he was nearly sorted into Slytherin. I don't think he's even told Ron or Hermione about that yet. James may not have told Sirius or his other friends about being related to Snape either.